I would request Dinesh sir and Garg sir to make this as one of the highlights on the website under the heading, ANGUSTIFOLIA AND AUGUSTIFOLIA ISSUE. or may be ANGUSTIFOLIA VS. AUGUSTIFOLIA :)).
Regards Pankaj On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello All, > > I had sent a mail to Dr. K.N. Gandhi, Senior Nomenclatural Registrar > at Harvard University and he was kind enough to follow and has already > made necessary corrections on the website of IPNI for angustifolia. > Many thanks to him. > > According to him, one may name a plant with the epithet augustifol-" > if the taxon has "augustus" (= majestic) leaf. But he cant recall if > anyone did so. > > Regards > Pankaj > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: >> Nice and tiring work that must have been. >> Thanks for sharing. >> You took so much time and effort so I was kind of ashamed, hence i >> tried to get whatever protologues I could and these are the >> confirmations after checking the original descriptions: >> >> Fockea angustifolia K.Schum. Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 17(1-2): 146. (1893). >> >> Laggera angustifolia Hayata Icon. Pl. Formosan. 8: 54. (1919). >> >> Eria angustifolia Ridl., Trans. Linn. Soc. London, Bot. 4: 237 (1894). >> >> Diospyros angustifolia Audi. ex Spach Hist. Nat. Vég. (Spach) 9: 405. >> (1840) [this should be correct according to ICBN, Priority of >> Publication) >> >> Eschweilera angustifolia Mart. Flora 20 (2, Beibl.): 89. (1837). >> >> Hortonia angustifolia Trim. -- Syst. Cat. Fl. Pl. Ceylon (1885). >> >> Please find the protologues attached. >> Unfortunately, I could not find the rest. >> Regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> It is really interesting >>> >>> >>> Amaranthaceae Iresine augustifolia Euphrasen -- Beskr. St. Barthel. >>> 165. (IK) >>> >>> Amaranthaceae Iresine angustifolia Hort. ex Moq. -- Prodr. (DC.) 13(2): 343. >>> 1849 [5 May 1849] (IK) >>> >>> Amaranthaceae Iresine angustifolia Rich. ex Moq. -- Prodr. (DC.) 13(2): 348, >>> 353. 1849 [5 May 1849] (IK) >>> >>> (Last two missing from The Plant List) >>> >>> Asclepiadaceae Fockea augustifolia K.Schum. -- Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 17(1-2): >>> 146. 1893 [9 May 1893] (IK) >>> >>> Asclepiadaceae Fockea angustifolia K.Schum. -- Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 17(1-2): >>> 146. 1893 [9 May 1893] ; in IK Suppl. 1 as 'augustifolia' (IK) >>> >>> (augustifolia again missing from The Plant List) >>> >>> Asteraceae Laggera augustifolia Hayata -- Icon. Pl. Formosan. 8: 54. 1919 >>> [25 Mar 1919] (IK) >>> >>> IPNI does not have entry for Laggera angustifolia >>> >>> (The Plant List has Laggera alata var. angustifolia (Hayata) Yamam. as well >>> as Laggera angustifolia Hayata but none for Laggera augustifolia) >>> >>> Ebenaceae Diospyros augustifolia (Miq.) Kosterm. -- Ceylon J. Sci., Biol. >>> Sci. 12(2): 106 (1977). (IK) >>> >>> Ebenaceae Diospyros angustifolia Audib. ex Spach -- Hist. Nat. Vég. (Spach) >>> 9: 405. 1840 [15 Aug 1840] (IK) >>> >>> (The Plant List has Diospyros angustifolia Audib. ex Spach as well >>> as Diospyros angustifolia (Miq.) Kosterm. [Illegitimate] but not Diospyros >>> augustifolia) >>> >>> Lecythidaceae Eschweilera augustifolia Mart. -- Flora 20(2, Beibl.): 89. >>> 1837 (IK) >>> >>> IPNI does not have an entry for Eschweilera angustifolia >>> >>> (The Plant List has Eschweilera angustifolia Mart. but no entry for >>> Eschweilera augustifolia) >>> >>> Monimiaceae Hortonia augustifolia Trim. -- Syst. Cat. Fl. Pl. Ceylon (1885) >>> 75 et Handl. Fl. Ceyl. iii. 437. (IK) >>> >>> IPNI does not have an entry for Hortonia Hortonia angustifolia >>> >>> (The Plant has both Hortonia angustifolia Trim. as well >>> as Hortonia augustifolia Trimen with same citation and same page number) but >>> then we have seen the link >>> >>> http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924000414510#page/n83/mode/2up >>> >>> Orchidaceae Eria augustifolia Ridl. ex Stapf -- Trans. Linn. Soc. London, >>> Bot. 4(2): 237. 1894 [1894-96 publ. Dec 1894] (IK) >>> >>> IPNI does not have an entry for Eria angustifolia >>> >>> (The Plant List has Eria angustifolia Ridl. as well >>> as Eria augustifolia Ridl. ex Stapf both leading to Trans. Linn. Soc. >>> London, Bot. 4: 237 237 1894. (in former 237 is only once) >>> >>> Polypodiaceae Pteropsis augustifolia Desv. -- Mém. Soc. Linn. Paris 6(3): >>> 218. 1827 (IF) >>> >>> Polypodiaceae Pteropsis angustifolia Pappe & Rawson -- Syn. Fil. Afr. Austr. >>> 43. 1858 1857 (IF) >>> >>> Polypodiaceae Pteropsis angustifolia Fourn. -- Pl. mex. 1. 86. 1872. >>> 1872 (IF) >>> >>> >>> >>> (The Plant list has Pteropsis angustifolia E. >>> Fourn., Pteropsis angustifolia (Sw.) Desv. as well >>> as Pteropsis augustifolia Desv. both leading to Mém. Soc. Linn. Paris 6: 218 >>> 218 1827. (with again 218 once in former) >>> >>> Rubiaceae Nauclea augustifolia Havil. -- J. Linn. Soc., Bot. xxxiii. >>> 55. (IK) >>> >>> IPNI has no entry for Nauclea angustifolia >>> (The plant list has Nauclea angustifolia Havil. with same reference J. >>> Linn. Soc., Bot. 33: 55 1897. but no entry for Nauclea augustifolia) >>> The fun continues but it perhaps emerges >>> 1. The Plant List is fast catching up >>> 2. Does specific epithet augustifolia/ium/ius really exist for any genus? >>> 3. Now only names under Pteropsis need to be checked thoroughly >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Interestingly, for once i thought I found one atleast >>>> Hortonia augustifolia Trim. Syst. Cat. Fl. Pl. Ceylon 75 (1885). >>>> >>>> So just to crosscheck, I looked into the protologue, Systematic >>>> Catalogue of the Flowering Plants and Ferns Indigenous to or Growing >>>> Wild in Ceylon.by Trimen available on: >>>> >>>> http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924000414510#page/n83/mode/2up >>>> >>>> Please go to page 83 on the slider which takes you to page 75 and find >>>> out yourself!!! >>>> Regards >>>> Pankaj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > I tried all these from IPNI for fun. >>>> > Guess what, same names with angustifolia also exist!!! So I didnt add >>>> > that information. >>>> > Eg. >>>> > >>>> > Iresine augustifolia Euphrasen Beskr. St. Barthel. 165. >>>> > Iresine angustifolia Hort. ex Moq. Prodr. (DC.) 13(2): 343. 1849 >>>> > >>>> > Fockea augustifolia K.Schum. Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 17(1-2): 146. 1893 >>>> > Fockea angustifolia K.Schum. Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 17(1-2): 146. 1893 [9 >>>> > May 1893] ; in IK Suppl. 1 as 'augustifolia' >>>> > >>>> > In both case seems, second names are valid. I didnt try for rest. >>>> > Pankaj >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> IPNI search found 9 matches of augustifolia >>>> >> >>>> >> Amaranthaceae Iresine augustifolia Euphrasen -- Beskr. St. Barthel. >>>> >> 165. (IK) >>>> >> >>>> >> Asclepiadaceae Fockea augustifolia K.Schum. -- Bot. Jahrb. Syst. >>>> >> 17(1-2): >>>> >> 146. 1893 [9 May 1893] (IK) >>>> >> >>>> >> Asteraceae Laggera augustifolia Hayata -- Icon. Pl. Formosan. 8: 54. >>>> >> 1919 >>>> >> [25 Mar 1919] (IK) >>>> >> >>>> >> Ebenaceae Diospyros augustifolia (Miq.) Kosterm. -- Ceylon J. Sci., >>>> >> Biol. >>>> >> Sci. 12(2): 106 (1977). (IK) >>>> >> >>>> >> Lecythidaceae Eschweilera augustifolia Mart. -- Flora 20(2, Beibl.): >>>> >> 89. >>>> >> 1837 (IK) >>>> >> >>>> >> Monimiaceae Hortonia augustifolia Trim. -- Syst. Cat. Fl. Pl. Ceylon >>>> >> (1885) >>>> >> 75 et Handl. Fl. Ceyl. iii. 437. (IK) >>>> >> >>>> >> Orchidaceae Eria augustifolia Ridl. ex Stapf -- Trans. Linn. Soc. >>>> >> London, >>>> >> Bot. 4(2): 237. 1894 [1894-96 publ. Dec 1894] (IK) >>>> >> >>>> >> Polypodiaceae Pteropsis augustifolia Desv. -- Mém. Soc. Linn. Paris >>>> >> 6(3): >>>> >> 218. 1827 (IF) >>>> >> >>>> >> Rubiaceae Nauclea augustifolia Havil. -- J. Linn. Soc., Bot. xxxiii. >>>> >> 55. (IK) >>>> >> >>>> >> Thus augustifolia is valid though not examples cited by Satish ji or >>>> >> Dinesh >>>> >> ji >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> >> Retired Associate Professor >>>> >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ... it is very heartening to find the bluff floating on internet >>>> >>> getting >>>> >>> skimmed off by our group. >>>> >>> Regards >>>> >>> Dinesh. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As mentioned by Pankaj there is no specific epithet augustifolia. All >>>> >>>> cases mentioned by Dinesh ji are spelling error where n got >>>> >>>> substituted by >>>> >>>> u. While citing the web I have a thumb rule. Don't believe isolated >>>> >>>> mention, >>>> >>>> always follow the majority, and it works. If a particular thing is >>>> >>>> mentioned 100 times, there are chances that there are up to 10 per >>>> >>>> cent >>>> >>>> errors, but very rarely that there are more than 50 per cent errors. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Deliberate Google search of augustifolia yields following: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Araucaria augustifolia >>>> >>>>> Arnica augustifolia >>>> >>>>> Elaeagnus augustifolia >>>> >>>>> Lavandula augustifolia >>>> >>>>> Malus augustifolia >>>> >>>>> Populus augustifolia >>>> >>>>> Porlieria augustifolia >>>> >>>>> Stenogyne augustifolia >>>> >>>>> Typha augustifolia >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Some OR all of these words may carry typo error ... it is worth >>>> >>>>> observing that some of these appear in reputed sites and papers. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> augustifolia is available in Dave's Garden Botanary, -- meaning: >>>> >>>>> stately, noble foliage >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/search.php?search_text=augustifolia&Search.x=0&Search.y=0 >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Regards >>>> >>>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> There is no word called augustifolia in my knowledge. Its >>>> >>>>>> angustifolia >>>> >>>>>> which means 'narrow leaves'. This may also be with reference to the >>>> >>>>>> leaf base which gradually narrows down on the petiole. Some times >>>> >>>>>> such >>>> >>>>>> names are also with reference to another similar looking plant, >>>> >>>>>> that >>>> >>>>>> might have a different shape of leaf. For example Thelasis >>>> >>>>>> longifolia. >>>> >>>>>> There is nothing so long about the leaf of this plant, but its with >>>> >>>>>> reference to another plant which is called Thelasis pygmaea. >>>> >>>>>> 'pygmaea' >>>> >>>>>> means short with reference to short stature of the second taxa. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> During my school time in 11th standard, we came across a plant we >>>> >>>>>> know >>>> >>>>>> as Typha angustifolia. I asked my teacher about why it is >>>> >>>>>> angustifolia, shouldn't it be augustifolia? >>>> >>>>>> He asked me, "why?". >>>> >>>>>> And I scratching my head answered, "may be the leaves come out >>>> >>>>>> during >>>> >>>>>> the month of august"....:))))). >>>> >>>>>> And he smiled said, "no its angustifolia". >>>> >>>>>> I asked him why, But he never answered!!! >>>> >>>>>> But now I know :). >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Pankaj >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>> >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> > Satish ji, >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > augustifolia is a valid epithet ... however, there is no such >>>> >>>>>> > species >>>> >>>>>> > called >>>> >>>>>> > Actinodaphne augustifolia. >>>> >>>>>> > Actinodaphne angustifolia is a valid name, the plant is native of >>>> >>>>>> > our >>>> >>>>>> > country. >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > Regards >>>> >>>>>> > Dinesh. >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Satish Nikam >>>> >>>>>> > <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> dear friends, >>>> >>>>>> >> neilji is Actinodaphne angustifolia and >>>> >>>>>> >> augustifolia the >>>> >>>>>> >> same,because google gives results only for angustifolia.Besides >>>> >>>>>> >> shrikantji >>>> >>>>>> >> earlier had identified this as angustifolia(Pisa in leaf >>>> >>>>>> >> buds)please >>>> >>>>>> >> clarify >>>> >>>>>> >> thanks >>>> >>>>>> >> regards >>>> >>>>>> >> satish nikam >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> -- >>>> >>>>>> *********************************************** >>>> >>>>>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>>> >>>>>> Research Associate >>>> >>>>>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >>>> >>>>>> Department of Habitat Ecology >>>> >>>>>> Wildlife Institute of India >>>> >>>>>> Post Box # 18 >>>> >>>>>> Dehradun - 248001, India >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > *********************************************** >>>> > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>>> > Research Associate >>>> > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >>>> > Department of Habitat Ecology >>>> > Wildlife Institute of India >>>> > Post Box # 18 >>>> > Dehradun - 248001, India >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *********************************************** >>>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >>>> >>>> >>>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>>> Research Associate >>>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >>>> Department of Habitat Ecology >>>> Wildlife Institute of India >>>> Post Box # 18 >>>> Dehradun - 248001, India >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *********************************************** >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Research Associate >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> Department of Habitat Ecology >> Wildlife Institute of India >> Post Box # 18 >> Dehradun - 248001, India >> > > > > -- > *********************************************** > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > Research Associate > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > Department of Habitat Ecology > Wildlife Institute of India > Post Box # 18 > Dehradun - 248001, India > -- *********************************************** "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Research Associate Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project Department of Habitat Ecology Wildlife Institute of India Post Box # 18 Dehradun - 248001, India
