Hi,
 As Dinesh has mentioned you have possibly mixed-up the photographs. Granted 
that the leaves in some of the photographs look like those of Gol [Trema 
orientalis], but the flowers do not match.
                        With regards,
                          Neil Soares.

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From: Rashida Atthar <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:63794] Tree for id 070610MK3
To: "Muthu Karthick" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>, "indiantreepix" 
<[email protected]>
Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 4:48 PM



Yes, I too think it is Trema  orientalis.
 
regards,
Rashida.  


On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear all, 
Sorry for not mentioning the details. The d 024 to d 31 were taken at Nilgiris 
Eastern slope area (12 Feb 2011; Alt: 400msl) and the pics E104-107 were taken 
at Mudumalai wls, TN (04 May 2010). But both the locations are at same river 
bank, with a gross distance of 30KM.


Yes, Dineshji the tree matches the descriptions of Trema orientalis.






On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:

Muthu ji ... are these all photographs of same tree - same time ? 
... because some of the photos: d 024. jpg ... 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 ... give a 
strong impression of the Trema species, perhaps the charcoal tree, Trema 
orientalis ... me could be wrong !!

Regards.
Dinesh 









On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear all, 
I am requesting the id of this tree once again with more pictures. Please help 
me. Any possibilities for this to be a Sapindaceae member?


Forwarded conversation
Subject: Tree for id 070610MK3
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From: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:38 PM 



To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>






Dear all,
Sorry for posting pictures without any floral details. 
Kindly help to id the tree species common on the river banks at an altitude of 
500 - 900 msl. For me this resembles Grewia sp. Experts please guide. What this 
white tree would be?








Date/Time- 

04-05-2010 / 02:00 PM


Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- 

Mudumalai wls; 700 msl


Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Typ

riparian and also on closer deciduous forests


Plant Habit-
tree with whitish bark


Height/Length- 

ca. 5 m


Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- 

10 x 4cm; oblique at base


Inflorescence Type/ Size- 





Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- 





Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- 




Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- 
no fragrance
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From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:54 PM
To: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>
Cc: indiantreepix <[email protected]>



... the leaves remind me of Ziziphus oenoplia ... BUT cannot see the spines !!
Could be wrong.

Regards. 











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From: tanay bose <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:11 PM
To: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
Cc: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>, indiantreepix 
<[email protected]>


Dinesh Ji the leaves do look life Ziziphus oenoplia !! but the plant is 
spineless even the young shoots have spines I have seen it .
Tanay 


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From: amol k l <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:21 AM
To: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>


 Dear  Muthuji if you specimen, Why not you use the Plaskals Key, for tree 
species identification which was mainly based on Leaves & their characters .








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From: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM
To: amol k l <[email protected]>


Dear Amolji, 
Right now I don't have that key for identifying. I need to wait for the flowers 
to open and then identify.
Thank you for highlighting.  


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From: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:43 AM
To: tanay bose <[email protected]>
Cc: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>, indiantreepix 
<[email protected]>


Dear Dineshji, 

Unlike Ziziphus oenoplia this is an unarmed tree. Yet the leaf characters 
resemble Ziziphus oenoplia. 


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From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:54 PM 

To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
Cc: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>, tanay bose <[email protected]>, 
Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>, C KUNHIKANNAN <[email protected]>, 
Vijayasankar Raman <[email protected]>




Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“... the leaves remind me of Ziziphus oenoplia ... BUT cannot see the spines !!
Could be wrong.” from Dinesh ji.
 
“Dinesh Ji the leaves do look life Ziziphus oenoplia !! but the plant is 
spineless even the young shoots have spines I have seen it .
Tanay”

 
“Unlike Ziziphus oenoplia this is an unarmed tree. Yet the leaf characters 
resemble Ziziphus oenoplia.” from Muthu ji.







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From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:29 AM 

To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
Cc: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>, tanay bose <[email protected]>, 
Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>, C KUNHIKANNAN <[email protected]>, 
Vijayasankar Raman <[email protected]>



“Dinesh Ji the leaves do look like Ziziphus oenoplia !! but the plant is 
spineless even the young shoots have spines I have seen it . 





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From: L. Rasingam <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:16 PM
To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Muthu Karthick 
<[email protected]>, tanay bose <[email protected]>, Dinesh Valke 
<[email protected]>, C KUNHIKANNAN <[email protected]>, Vijayasankar 
Raman <[email protected]>



Dear Muthu Ji

This is Trema orientalis (Ulmaceae)

regards 
L.Rasingam 


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From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM
To: "L. Rasingam" <[email protected]>
Cc: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>, efloraofindia 
<[email protected]>, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>, tanay 
bose <[email protected]>, C KUNHIKANNAN <[email protected]>, 
Vijayasankar Raman <[email protected]>



Rasingam ji, ... not Trema orientalis.
Have some views of T. orientalis at my photostream at flickr.
... http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=trema%20orientalis&w=91314344%40N00

Regards. 


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From: Divakar <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 9:09 AM 

To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>



Dear karthick,
As you guess it could be a species of Grewia.
-Divakar



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> >> J.M.Garg ([email protected]) 

> >> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]>



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From: Joshi Pankaj <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:49 PM
To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>, efloraofindia 
<[email protected]> 

Cc: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>, tanay bose <[email protected]>, 
Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>, C KUNHIKANNAN <[email protected]>, 
Vijayasankar Raman <[email protected]>







M also agree with..this is not a Z.oenoplia, no armed? 
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From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
Cc: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>; tanay bose <[email protected]>; 
Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>; C KUNHIKANNAN <[email protected]>; 
Vijayasankar Raman <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, 2 July, 2010 10:29:24 AM
Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:39992] Tree for id 070610MK3




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From: Senthilkumar <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:11 AM
To: Joshi Pankaj <[email protected]>
Cc: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>, efloraofindia 
<[email protected]>, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>, tanay 
bose <[email protected]>, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>, C 
KUNHIKANNAN <[email protected]>, Vijayasankar Raman 
<[email protected]>




Dear Muthu 
I think that this could be Grewia hirsuta. U pls check with Arisdasan.


Regards
Senthilkumar U.  


Senthilkumar U.
BSI & School of Ecology and Conservation,
University of Agricultural Sciences,
Bangalore-560 065.
Karnataka, India


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From: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:53 PM
To: Senthilkumar <[email protected]>
Cc: Joshi Pankaj <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>, 
efloraofindia <[email protected]>, tanay bose 
<[email protected]>, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>, C KUNHIKANNAN 
<[email protected]>, Vijayasankar Raman <[email protected]>



Dear Senthilji,
G.hirsuta is a shrub and it have hirsute plant body; whereas the posted picture 
has nearly glabrous leaves and is a tree.

Kindly refer the following link for G. hirsuta.: 

http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/b016e1dc47b70206/62970bfac88e59d8?lnk=gst&q=Grewia+hirsuta#62970bfac88e59d8
 





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