Pankaj ji, very valuable information on camera.
Thanks for sharing,
Regards,
Mani.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nice and thanks for sharing.
> Its good if you have to carry less weight while trekking or travelling. So
> one multipurpose lens will always be good, but to have good pictures, there
> are specific lenses. Then you also wish not to carry a tripod which is more
> heavier than the lens.
> As I say most of the time, multiple pics from multiple angle always help
> even for a plant collected by non botanist.
> Here are few Euphorbia I took after seeing Satyendra sir's pictures.
> All pictures were taken using inbuilt flash except for the last one for
> which ring flash was used. Fourth pic was taken using wide angle at around
> 60mm.
> Last two pics were taken using macro at minimum distance possible.
> All pictures have been put on powerpoint and slides are being prepared
> hence it has lost the original resolution but all have been kept at same
> resolution to compare.
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:25 PM, satyendra tiwari <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>> i put D2X camera body on tripod with shutter release cable. I used Nikon
>> 105 MM F 2.8 mACRO LENS and Nikon 18-55 mm lens. Photos shot on F5.6 TO f40
>> DIFFERENT apperture setting and shutter speed.
>> camera body was set on apperture mode.
>> readings are put with every photo F36 SHUTTER SPEED 60 FOCAL LENGTH 55 ISO
>> 200 (36 60 55 200)
>> please see and make your own decision about the sharpness / focus.
>> thanks.
>> satyendra
>>
>> On 2 March 2011 15:25, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Before that here are few things to understand.
>>> Shutter ranges from number lower to higher, i.e., 1 - 10000, i.e., slower
>>> to faster, i.e., shutter opens for more time to less time.
>>> Aperture ranges from lower to higher, i.e., 2.8 - 36 (or higher), i.e.,
>>> bigger to smaller.
>>> ISO ranges from lower to higher, i.e, 100 - 6400, i.e., lesser
>>> sensitivity to higher sensitivity.
>>>
>>> Now coming to Dr. Gurcharan's query:
>>> The best way to keep maximum things in focus is by increasing the depth
>>> of field. That can be done by reducing the aperture while taking a picture
>>> and when you increase the aperture then depth of field decreases. The
>>> aperture is represented by f but it is in ratio, i.e., f 2.8 is actually
>>> f/2.8 hence it means smaller is the number bigger is the aperture and lesser
>>> is the depth of field.
>>> At times, you may not have enough light but still if you have to reduce
>>> the aperture then you can increase the time of exposure OR you can increase
>>> the sensitivity OR you can provide extra light or use flash.
>>> Attaching some examples to show how shutter works.
>>> Hope this will help. I have kept ISO and SHUTTER stable and changed the
>>> aperture. You may notice that the fourth pic is a bit darker. To get a
>>> better pic you could either increase the ISO or decrease the shutter.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps the crux of my query still remains unanswered.
>>>>
>>>> I find my digicam Panasonic Lumix (DMC-ZS3, 25 mm wide angle, 12 x, HD
>>>> movie; Leica  DC VARIO-ELMAR 1:3.3-4.9/4.1-49.2 ASPH.) giving good results
>>>> for general habit of plant than my DSLR, whereas DSLR is excellent for 
>>>> close
>>>> up and photographs of smaller parts. How to achieve good photograph of 
>>>> habit
>>>> with DSLR so that all parts are in focus?
>>>>     Till any such solution I would continue photographs of general habit
>>>> with Panasonic Digicam and plant parts especially close ups with DSLR. Both
>>>> are 10.3 megapixels.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Pankaj Oudhia 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2 & 5. Jewel Bugs [Chrysocoris stolli].
>>>>>
>>>>> It was first identified by FAO experts as Scutellera nobilis through
>>>>> pestnet. I was about to report it on Jatropha curcas as first record.
>>>>> Entomologists from different groups confirmed it.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Later it was identified as Chrysocoris. It seems as correct identity
>>>>> so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our Healers use it as Traditional medicine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Neil Soares 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Hi Dr. Oudhia,
>>>>>>     Nice photographs !!! In case you are interested they are:
>>>>>>    1.The House Fly [Musca domestica].
>>>>>>    2 & 5. Jewel Bugs [Chrysocoris stolli].
>>>>>>    3.Brown Lynx spider [Oxyopes rufisternum].
>>>>>>    4.Pongamia pinnata seeds.
>>>>>> & 6.Tortoise Shell Beetles [Aspidomorpha milliaris].
>>>>>>                      With regards,
>>>>>>                        Neil Soares
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On *Wed, 3/2/11, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:63992] Camera Query: How to select?
>>>>>> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 12:49 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some close-ups from my camera. All pictures are from Ecoport.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Satyendra sir
>>>>>> You are a professiona photographer and for sure more experienced than
>>>>>> most of us. I fully agree with you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When they take pictures of animals they prefer covering the habitat
>>>>>> too, hence its good that ways if they use the wideangle.
>>>>>> But when we talk about closeup details then macro lens is needed. Most
>>>>>> of the wide angle lens dont go close more than 25cm and at that point
>>>>>> you cant zoom in more, hence it becomes a negative point while
>>>>>> shooting macro. Secondly, in animal photography, you dont want to
>>>>>> disturb the subject it may run/fly away, hence to maintaining a
>>>>>> distance is always a good option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And as I said before, small cameras also does wonder and I fully agree
>>>>>> with you on this. The four pictures which I added of those, i like
>>>>>> Erythrina crysta-galli the most although it has been taken by a
>>>>>> compact pocket digital camera.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you wish to minimise the weight then wideangle serves the purpose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just adding few more pics. These details, you may not ever get with a
>>>>>> wideangle lens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pankaj
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:09 PM, satyendra tiwari <
>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Dear Gurucharan ji and all,
>>>>>> > I dont remember the model no but one of the Lumix Panasonic shoots
>>>>>> in Raw
>>>>>> > also.
>>>>>> > These small cameras are very good for this kind of work and even for
>>>>>> > Landscape for some reason.
>>>>>> > One of my photographer friend who has written two guide books on
>>>>>> Madagaskar
>>>>>> > and two on Borneo always uses wide angle lens for photographing
>>>>>> insects and
>>>>>> > flowers. I am finding it very useful too so please try wide angle
>>>>>> lens too
>>>>>> > for small objects.
>>>>>> > I will post few pictures soon.
>>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>>> > Satyendra
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 2 March 2011 08:14, Gurcharan Singh 
>>>>>> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Very good write up and equally matching photographs. Thanks Pankaj
>>>>>> ji.
>>>>>> >> Well said "Photography is an art and that is within you and not in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >> camera." Perhaps you can give a good interpretation. I find my Sony
>>>>>> alpha
>>>>>> >> 100 DSLR (with normal lens and a telephoto lens; my son has alpha
>>>>>> 750 which
>>>>>> >> I used in California for photography) giving good results
>>>>>> for focusing plant
>>>>>> >> parts and I use extension tubes (have not yet bought a real macro
>>>>>> lens) for
>>>>>> >> close ups, but for general profile of plant especially habit I find
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> >> Panasonic Lumix (DMC-ZS3, 25 mm wide angle, 12 x, HD movie; Leica
>>>>>>  DC
>>>>>> >> VARIO-ELMAR 1:3.3-4.9/4.1-49.2 ASPH.) giving good results. All
>>>>>> parts are
>>>>>> >> equally focussed. I also use it for portraits and video recordings.
>>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>>> >> you can throw some light on that.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>> >> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>> >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>> >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>> >> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>> >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Vijayasankar <
>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Well written, Pankaj. Thanks for sharing your valuable experiences
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>> simple manner.
>>>>>> >>> This useful episode is going great!!!
>>>>>> >>> Look forward for more such nicely written articles on the subject.
>>>>>> Keep
>>>>>> >>> it ON!
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Regards
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman
>>>>>> >>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>>>>>> >>> University of Mississippi
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Pankaj Kumar <
>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> How to SELECT?
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Before selecting, the foremost thing is to decide your budget.
>>>>>> You may
>>>>>> >>>> be lured by better cameras once you started knowing about them
>>>>>> hence
>>>>>> >>>> you will have to limit yourself with the budget, i.e., stop
>>>>>> looking at
>>>>>> >>>> anything beyond your budget. You may at times feel like, "ok if I
>>>>>> add
>>>>>> >>>> few more thousands to my budget then after 2-3 months I will buy
>>>>>> >>>> another and better camera!!". But remember, companies keep on
>>>>>> >>>> releasing new models throughout the year and hence better models
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>> >>>> coming. After 3 months you may realise that there is still a
>>>>>> better
>>>>>> >>>> option which you have to wait for another few months and this
>>>>>> goes
>>>>>> >>>> on.....so STOP AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE AT THE SHOPS,
>>>>>> >>>> unless you are planning to go for a very high end camera.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> One more thing you should remember that buying during festive
>>>>>> seasons
>>>>>> >>>> may give you lot of discounts and other accessory offers. For
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> >>>> living outside India, especially in Europe or USA, the best time
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> get many offers are during Christmas sale. You really get some
>>>>>> >>>> extraordinarily cheap rates.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Once you have fixed your budget, its time for setting up your
>>>>>> >>>> priorities:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> 1. Sensor Size (Bigger the sensor size, better better should be
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> result. Sensor can usually be of two types, CMOS or CCD. There is
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> >>>> clearcut distinction about which is better, but CMOS use less
>>>>>> power,
>>>>>> >>>> are faster and comparatively cheaper than CCD).
>>>>>> >>>> 2. Megapixel (at optimum size, 10 megapixel is good enough, you
>>>>>> may
>>>>>> >>>> think of 12 megapixel too, but always remember, that you need an
>>>>>> >>>> external storage device for all your pictures and a bigger flash
>>>>>> card
>>>>>> >>>> too. Most of us are not planning to get a door size printouts of
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> >>>> pictures, hence limiting yourself to 12 megapixel is a good
>>>>>> idea).
>>>>>> >>>> 3. Body Size (some cameras are heavy and in field at times you
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> >>>> find it to be too heavy and curse yourself for carrying it
>>>>>> especially
>>>>>> >>>> on long or high altitude treks.)
>>>>>> >>>> 4. Modes: Look out for the MANUAL mode. Any camera with MANUAL
>>>>>> mode
>>>>>> >>>> gives you more option to create your own modes for taking shots.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> >>>> you are looking for closeup shots then look for availability of
>>>>>> MACRO
>>>>>> >>>> mode and also look for the minimum closeup distance of the lens.
>>>>>> Its
>>>>>> >>>> usually written on the lens or the camera body. Also look for the
>>>>>> >>>> placement of FLASH on the camera at the minimum closeup distance.
>>>>>> >>>> Because if you want to use flash on macro mode then it castes a
>>>>>> shadow
>>>>>> >>>> of the hood on the subject. Ability to use flash in macro is
>>>>>> always a
>>>>>> >>>> good option. In compact cameras and prosumers, if you have a
>>>>>> camera
>>>>>> >>>> with lens which doesnt pop out then its always good. This
>>>>>> technology
>>>>>> >>>> is called INTERNAL FOCUSING (IF) and its written on the lens or
>>>>>> body
>>>>>> >>>> for DSLRs. For compact cameras, this is a good option as it
>>>>>> doesnot
>>>>>> >>>> caste shadow of the hood on the subject.
>>>>>> >>>> 5. Attachment options: Some lower end camera also comes with
>>>>>> accessory
>>>>>> >>>> lens (attaching other wideangle or telezoom lens) and extra flash
>>>>>> >>>> attachment options. So if such options are available then its
>>>>>> good to
>>>>>> >>>> enhance your creativity as well as the usage of you camera.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> REMEMBER, A GOOD CAMERA WILL NOT GIVE YOU GOOD RESULTS. IT ALWAYS
>>>>>> >>>> DEPEND ON YOUR OWN ABILITY TO USE A CAMERA PROPERLY TO GET THE
>>>>>> BEST
>>>>>> >>>> RESULTS OUT OF IT.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Regards
>>>>>> >>>> Pankaj
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> ***********************************************
>>>>>> >>>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
>>>>>> >>>> Research Associate
>>>>>> >>>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
>>>>>> >>>> Department of Habitat Ecology
>>>>>> >>>> Wildlife Institute of India
>>>>>> >>>> Post Box # 18
>>>>>> >>>> Dehradun - 248001, India
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Satyendra K.Tiwari.
>>>>>> > Wildlife Photographer, Naturalist, Tour Leader
>>>>>> > H.NO <http://h.no/> 129, P.O.Tala, Distt Umariya.
>>>>>> > M.P. India 484-661
>>>>>> > Park Entry fee is constantly under revision since last one year. We
>>>>>> take no
>>>>>> > responsibility for any changes in park rules / fees. We will
>>>>>> endaevour to
>>>>>> > let you know as soon as we know of such changes.
>>>>>> > To know more about Bandhavgarh visit following links.
>>>>>> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/satyendraphotography
>>>>>> > http://tigerdiaries.blogspot.com
>>>>>> > http://skayscamp.wetpaint.com
>>>>>> > SKAY'S CAMP is awarded QUALITY rating by Tour Operator For Tigers
>>>>>> (TOFT).
>>>>>> > http://www.toftigers.org/accommodation/Default.aspx?id=15
>>>>>> > Review Skay's Camp on TripAdvisor
>>>>>> > 00-91-7627-265309 or 09425331209
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>  ***********************************************
>>>>>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
>>>>>> Research Associate
>>>>>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
>>>>>> Department of Habitat Ecology
>>>>>> Wildlife Institute of India
>>>>>> Post Box # 18
>>>>>> Dehradun - 248001, India
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ***********************************************
>>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
>>>
>>>
>>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
>>> Research Associate
>>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
>>> Department of Habitat Ecology
>>> Wildlife Institute of India
>>> Post Box # 18
>>> Dehradun - 248001, India
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  Satyendra K.Tiwari.
>> Wildlife Photographer, Naturalist, Tour Leader
>> H.NO <http://h.no/> 129, P.O.Tala, Distt Umariya.
>> M.P. India 484-661
>> Park Entry fee is constantly under revision since last one year. We take
>> no responsibility for any changes in park rules / fees. We will endaevour to
>> let you know as soon as we know of such changes.
>> To know more about Bandhavgarh visit following links.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/satyendraphotography
>> http://tigerdiaries.blogspot.com
>> http://skayscamp.wetpaint.com
>> SKAY'S CAMP is awarded QUALITY rating by Tour Operator For Tigers (TOFT).
>> http://www.toftigers.org/accommodation/Default.aspx?id=15
>> Review Skay's Camp on TripAdvisor
>> 00-91-7627-265309 or 09425331209
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ***********************************************
> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
>
>
> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
> Research Associate
> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
> Department of Habitat Ecology
> Wildlife Institute of India
> Post Box # 18
> Dehradun - 248001, India
>

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