My dear brothers, You both are taxonomists and much much better than me, why dont you read the type description in Genera and Species of Orchidaceous Plants by Lindley. The last line says: "calcare arcuato filiformi pendulo ovario rostrato longiore"
It means, "SPUR ARCHED, FILIFORM, PENDULOUS, BEAKED AND LONGER THAN OVARY". Very rarely in these plants, spur keeps on growing after blooming. secondly, I have seen this plant so many times, even in the bud condition, spurs are longer as in my picture.... But yes, we cant decide from one pic, as it can be just a deformity. So keep your specimen with you and next time look at it again in the field and if this character is there, then either its a different species or variety altogether or its something which we are not thinking of!! Pankaj On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:22 PM, manudev madhavan < [email protected]> wrote: > Muthuji, > > I have checked it with the description available in "Orchids of Nilgiris by > Joseph". The spur is nearly equal to the length of the ovary, which is about > 1 cm only. According to his description spur is considerably longer than > ovary, and the bracts are smaller than ovary, which is in contrast almost > equal to the length of the ovary in my plant. Other features are almost > similar. Since I didn't had a closer look, can not make a decision now. In > the morning i had a chat with Pankajji. As he suggested, we should be > critical in deciding the identity, and in addition, I only have a single > specimen with me. So, we can not make sure whether the differences seen in > this plant is stable or not???? Also am not sure whether the flower i have > photographed is a younger one, which may or may not elongate their spur as > said in description...??? > So, i think, its better dissect out the flower and have a closer look at > it..!! > > regards > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes Manudevji, >> The spur in your plant too appears almost 3cm. Check the specimen with the >> key. Sub-radical leaves should be the characteristic feature to sort down >> easily. >> Kindly refer this picture: >> http://flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Plantain%20Orchid.html as >> Pankajji suggested. >> >> "sepals less than 5mm; stems to 30cm; Lip much longer than sepals, with a >> linear midlobe and broad oblique sidelobes of same length; spur green, >> 15-25mm, longer than ovary (with pedicel); Fl- Nov Dec" -- description as >> per An Excursion Flora of Central TN by K.M Matthew, 1991 >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM, manudev madhavan < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the details Muthuji.. >>> >>> So the spur is 1.5-3 times longer than ovary according to santapau & >>> Kapadia. >>> I think, I should have a closer look on the specimen with me...?? >>> >>> regards >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Kindly refer the .pdf attached here. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> When did you find this in flowering? >>>>> Secondly, please see the flowers on flowersofindia.net >>>>> The spur if too long and yours is too short!!!! >>>>> Can you send me pic of complete plant plz. >>>>> Pankaj >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:24 PM, manudev madhavan < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Attaching here with the image of *Habenaria plantagine*a Lindl. >>>>>> Please Validate >>>>>> >>>>>> Collected from, Sulthan Bathery, Wayanad District, Kerala >>>>>> >>>>>> regards >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Manudev K Madhavan* >>>>>> Junior Research Fellow >>>>>> Systematic & Floristic Lab, >>>>>> Department of Botany, >>>>>> Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research >>>>>> St. Joseph's College, Devagiri >>>>>> Kozhikode- 673 008 >>>>>> Mob: 9496470738 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *********************************************** >>>>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>>>> Research Associate >>>>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >>>>> Department of Habitat Ecology >>>>> Wildlife Institute of India >>>>> Post Box # 18 >>>>> Dehradun - 248001, India >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Muthu Karthick, N >>>> Care Earth Trust >>>> #15, second main road, >>>> Thillai ganga nagar, >>>> Chennai - 600 061 >>>> Mob: 0091 96268 33911 >>>> www.careearthtrust.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Manudev K Madhavan* >>> Junior Research Fellow >>> Systematic & Floristic Lab, >>> Department of Botany, >>> Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research >>> St. Joseph's College, Devagiri >>> Kozhikode- 673 008 >>> Mob: 9496470738 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Muthu Karthick, N >> Care Earth Trust >> #15, second main road, >> Thillai ganga nagar, >> Chennai - 600 061 >> Mob: 0091 96268 33911 >> www.careearthtrust.org >> >> > > > -- > *Manudev K Madhavan* > Junior Research Fellow > Systematic & Floristic Lab, > Department of Botany, > Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research > St. Joseph's College, Devagiri > Kozhikode- 673 008 > Mob: 9496470738 > > -- *********************************************** "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Research Associate Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project Department of Habitat Ecology Wildlife Institute of India Post Box # 18 Dehradun - 248001, India
