Yazdy ji
I appreciate your approach to life, and willingness to forget all. At the
same time we must all agree that this forum is meant for extension of our
hobby to explore nature and photography, and all of us want it to be a
pleasant experience. There are many on the group who want to be perfect, but
in such a large forum all of us have to keep within norms, respect each
other, and not to point mistakes with show of disrespect. If things become
free for all, none of us will enjoy the interactions. As I wrote earlier
also, taxonomists form a small minority on this group, and while interacting
on this group they should realize the limitations of others who are
spreading their love for plants. English is such a refined language and it
is the duty of all seniors that this refinement is passed on to the young
colleagues.
I am often astonished by level of knowledge and humility shown by
people like you, Neil ji, Dinesh ji, Garg ji, Satish Phadke ji. Let young
colleagues learn some of the good things from these great personalities.
Finding fault is the easiest thing in the world, but more difficult is
the art of expressing it. Let us learn it and not offend others.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thank you Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji and all friends who have shown so
> much affection. I must mention here in the first place, that I have
> not for a moment taken the remarks of Snehal ji badly. I am fully
> aware from my experience with people that those who take their
> subject seriously normally are offended when others who are not so
> well qualified handle the subject in what appears to be a cavalier
> fashion. She is justified in thinking so because she is a serious
> student of botany and is devoted to botany.
> Having said that, I assure you that I will not leave the group that
> has so much to offer. So much affection, so much of patience, so much
> of knowledge. I have one request, please do not feel offended with
> Snehal ji, am sure she has a lot to offer to the group. we all commit
> mistakes and we all learn from it. Thank you all. Regards.
> Yazdy.
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Yazy ji
> > First of all accept my apologies that you have to face such comments. You
> > are perhaps more qualified to stay on the group than many of us. So
> please
> > never give a thought to "fading away from the group".
> > Perhaps my writing things in a polite tone has not had the desired
> affect.
> > Our new colleagues have to learn how to communicate in the group, which
> has
> > more than 80 per cent non-botanists, and less than 10 percent
> taxonomists.
> > Perhaps they contribute more to the group than many of us, and we should
> > learn to reciprocate. We are not here not to teach taxonomy to people.
> Our
> > aim is to help in identification for people who have interest photography
> > and nature. Please don't underestimate their role.
> > Snehal ji, you have done this thrice in last one month, insulting
> > members who are much senior to you in both age and experience. I hope you
> > won't repeat that in future.
> > Teaching others about the rules of taxonomy, just look at your
> three
> > or four lines, and see how many simple mistakes in English you have made.
> > Let me repeat we are here not to teach or find faults with others.
> > Just spread goodwill, share knowledge and help in creating good
> atmosphere
> > in the group.
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Forwarding again to the group, after seeing Madhuri ji's reaction:
> >>
> >> Dear Snehal ji,
> >>
> >> I appreciate your concern in writing botanical names in proper format.
> >> But, as you may aware, our group is not a full-fledged taxonomical
> group,
> >> and our members are from various fields. All our members are experts in
> >> their own field. They all discuss here and contribute just because they
> are
> >> interested in plants. So we can not expect that everyone should follow
> the
> >> ICBN rules. Do you think that just writing in italics make a name
> perfect?
> >> What about authority for names? Do we write names with full author
> citation
> >> all the time? Let us follow these regulations while writing eflora. You
> are
> >> most welcome to comment and correct any errors but without hurting
> anyone's
> >> feelings. Instead of 'finding faults' and using harsh words such as
> 'wrong'
> >> we can make it more polite. I have learnt many plants from non-botanist
> >> members such as Yazdy ji and their interactions are very valuable for
> the
> >> group.
> >>
> >> I am just expressing what i felt. It is not an attempt to make the issue
> >> big. Please take it positively.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Dear Snehal ji,
> >>>
> >>> I appreciate your concern in writing botanical names in proper format.
> >>> But, as you may aware, our group is not a full-fledged taxonomical
> group,
> >>> and our members are from various fields. All our members are experts in
> >>> their own field. They all discuss here and contribute just because they
> are
> >>> interested in plants. So we can not expect that everyone should follow
> the
> >>> ICBN rules. Do you think that just writing in italics make a name
> perfect?
> >>> What about authority for names? Do we write names with full author
> citation
> >>> all the time? Let us follow these regulations while writing eflora. You
> are
> >>> most welcome to comment and correct any errors but without hurting
> anyone's
> >>> feelings. Instead of using harsh words such as 'wrong' we can make it
> more
> >>> polite. I have learnt many plants from non-botanist members such as
> Yazdy ji
> >>> and their interactions are very valuable for the group.
> >>>
> >>> I am just expressing what i felt. It is not an attempt to make the
> issue
> >>> big. Please take it positively.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Vijayasankar Raman
> >>> National Center for Natural Products Research
> >>> University of Mississippi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Snehal Patel ji,
> >>>> Thanks for correcting me. I am not a botanist and as such am not aware
> >>>> of these codes. That though is no excuse for such mistakes. I should
> >>>> either learn them or slowly fade out of the group. I think am already
> >>>> not very regular as am not able to find much time. I have however
> >>>> always enjoyed learning and contributing in whatever little way, I
> >>>> could.
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Yazdy.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:50 PM, snehal patel
> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> > please follow the proper rules while typing the botanical
> >>>> > names.........
> >>>> > see how the highlighted name is writtne wrong botanically
> >>>> > The generic names should always starts with capital initial and
> >>>> > specific
> >>>> > epithet should always starts with small letter. And the names should
> >>>> > be in
> >>>> > Italics.
> >>>> > please take this email positively.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I agree, it looks like gliricidia Sepium.
> >>>> >> Regards
> >>>> >> Yazdy.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Vijayasankar
> >>>> >> <[email protected]>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> > Gliricidia sepium, I think.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Regards
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Vijayasankar Raman
> >>>> >> > National Center for Natural Products Research
> >>>> >> > University of Mississippi
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:19 PM, PUTTARAJU K
> >>>> >> > <[email protected]>
> >>>> >> > wrote:
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Deal all,
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Pl find attached
> >>>> >> >>
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