Hello HS,

Apologies for not putting references in earlier post.
At The Plants List:
1) *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar is an unresolved name
... http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2839226
2) *Bremekampia verticillata* (Roxb.) Sreem. is an unresolved name* ...
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2683247


It is alright if one does not agree to the concept of making new name for a
nameless plant.
Floras do not restrict giving new names to plants for common parlance.


Indeed there is a name *kala kirayaat* put in C P Khare's Indian Medicinal
Plants for *Haplanthus verticillatus* (Roxb). Nees
Many thanks HS for pointing to this name.
 ... this name also shared by *Haplanthus tentaculatus* Nees.


Regards.
Dinesh





On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 2:29 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote:

> Who says its scientific name is unresolved...
> making new common name or local name is always confusing..
> i dont go with such concept ..
>
> none of flora work ask to make new common name.. if there are some can
> be reported... because its always benefecial for the local people to
> know about the plants...
>
> There are many new common name made purposely instead of plant having
> some or the other common name...
>
> There are many examples... will not quote them... as it will hurt to
> many of photographer on the site itself..
>
>
>
> On 5/20/11, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
> > via Species <
> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species>‎
> >> ‎H <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/h>‎ >
> ‎
> > *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R. B. Majumdar
> > [image: Haplanthodes
> > verticillatus]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5363645471/>
> >
> >
> > [image: Flowers of
> > India]<
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Spiny%20Bottle%20Brush.html
> >[image:
> > Discussions at
> > efloraofindia]<
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Haplanthodes%20verticillatus
> >[image:
> > more views in
> > flickr]<
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Haplanthodesverticillatus&m=tags&z=m
> >[image:
> > more views on Google
> > Earth]<
> http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Haplanthodesverticillatus&format=kml_nl
> >
> >
> >
> > *commonly known as*: spiny bottle
> > brush<
> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/spiny-bottle-brush
> >
> >  • *Hindi*:
> > kastula<
> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/kastula>
> >  • *Marathi*: जकारा jakara
> > <
> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/jakara-jakara
> >
> >
> > *botanical names*: *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar ...
> *
> > synonyms*: *Bremekampia verticillata* (Roxb.) Sreem. • *Haplanthus
> > verticillatus* (Roxb.) Nees • *Justicia verticillata* Roxb. (basionym)
> >
> > *note*: most of the names are unresolved; an erroneous name *Haplanthodes
> > verticillata* is also found on internet
> >
> >
> > Regards.
> > Dinesh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Dinesh Valke
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> Dear HS,
> >>
> >> There is an adjective spiny added to bottle brush, thus spiny bottle
> >> brush,
> >> ... certainly different from the popularly known bottle brush.
> >> This common name is coined by Flowers of India, otherwise this plant
> would
> >> have no name to know with.
> >>
> >> Most of the endemic plants of Konkan are not known by any name ...
> perhaps
> >> because the regional folks have not found (or discovered) any good use.
> >>
> >> For this particular plant, the botanical names themselves are unresolved
> >> for some reason(s).
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >> Dinesh
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:36 AM, H S <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Dinesh Ji..
> >>> Bottle brush look altogether different structure from this one...
> >>> Just wanted to know from where this common name is taken..
> >>>
> >>> On 5/20/11, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > ... this is a name coined to suit the nature of the plant ... alludes
> >>> > to
> >>> the
> >>> > general appearance and form of the crowded leaves occurring in whorls
> >>> > at
> >>> the
> >>> > plant top ... the leaves have two spinous teeth at the tip and are
> >>> covered
> >>> > with long spreading hair.
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards.
> >>> > Dinesh
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM, H S <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> "Spiny Bottle Brush" .. which literature code this name..
> >>> >> Please inform..
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 5/20/11, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> > Hi,
> >>> >> >  Agree with Dinesh. My photographs of this plant are available at
> >>> this
> >>> >> link:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>>
> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/de79ae1a52a34dc0/ebf489dc0ed9aec0?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Haplanthodes+verticillatus+neil+Soares#ebf489dc0ed9aec0
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >                             Regards,
> >>> >> >                              Neil Soares.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
> >>> >> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:69817] Haplanthodes verticillatus
> >>> >> > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
> >>> >> > Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>, "Satish
> >>> Phadke"
> >>> >> > <[email protected]>, [email protected], [email protected],
> >>> >> > [email protected], [email protected],
> >>> >> [email protected],
> >>> >> > [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected],
> >>> >> > [email protected]
> >>> >> > Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 10:45 PM
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > ... yes Satish ji, Haplanthodes verticillatus ... the leaves have
> >>> >> > two
> >>> >> > spinous teeth at the tip ... the Spiny Bottle Brush at Flowers of
> >>> India.
> >>> >> > Regards.
> >>> >> > Dinesh
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:05 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> >> > From: Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
> >>> >> > Date: 7 February 2011 20:30
> >>> >> > Subject: [efloraofindia:62298] Haplanthodes verticillatus
> >>> >> > To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Haplanthodes verticillatus
> >>> >> > Observed in Karnala forest 6Feb 2011
> >>> >> > Cladodes more than 2cm long
> >>> >> > Pl. validate.
> >>> >> > Dr Phadke
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > With regards,
> >>> >> > J.M.Garg ([email protected])
> >>> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> >>> >> > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> >>> >> > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand
> >>> species &
> >>> >> > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
> >>> >> > alphabetically & place-wise):
> >>> >> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also
> >>> use
> >>> >> them
> >>> >> > for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> >>> >> > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
> >>> >> > Flora,
> >>> >> > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
> >>> >> > http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1600
> >>> members &
> >>> >> > 69,000 messages on 30/4/11) or Efloraofindia website:
> >>> >> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species
> >>> database of
> >>> >> > around 4500 species)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >>  - H.S.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere
> >>> >> heart
> >>> of
> >>> >> stone
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>  - H.S.
> >>>
> >>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
> >>> of
> >>> stone
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>

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