Alok ji While hunting for Rubus, be on watch for: number of leaflets, palmate (arising from one point, like Ceiba) or pinnate (like rose), undersurface of leaf (get at least one photograph), prickles on stem and rachis/petiole, flower colour and diam, calyx lobes shape and length (do focus it) and colour of mature fruits. Luckily you will usually find all these on the same plant, some times late in the flowering season.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Alok ji > > Here is the key for genus Rubus from Flora Simlensis > > Flowers white > Leaves simple, > lobed.....................................................................................R. > paniculatus Smith > Leaves compound > Lower surface of leaflets green, > glabrous.....................................................R. macilentus > Camb. > Lower surface of leaflets gray- or white-tomentose > Stem and branches shaggy, with long tawny > bristles...............................R. ellipticus Smith > Stem and branches glabrous, covered with white > bloom...........................R. biflorus > Flowers Pink, leaves compound > Leaflets 3, rarely 5; calyx lobes long pointed; druplets > pink................................R. niveus Wall > Leaflets 5-11, calyx lobes acute; drupelets > black..............................................R. lasiocarpus Smith > > > Rubus lasiocarpus Smith is now correctly known as R. niveus Thunb. > Rubus niveus Wall is now correctly known as R. pedunculosus D. Don > > For your plant, the closest match is R. pedunculosus D. Don (syn: R. niveus > Wall.; R. hypagyrus Edgew.) but be for look out for other closer species > like R. hoffmeisterianus Kunth and Bouch (which is similar but upper leaflet > largest and often 3-lobed, recurved prickles on rachis and young shoots); > both have 3 leaflets, leaves white beneath, fruits orange to red and flowers > pink. > > > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > . > > > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Alok Mahendroo > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thanks Muthu ji, that I had deduced... but have not been able to >> identify further... do you know of any keys to rubus sp. We have few >> more species here and one is beginning to flower now, I'll upload that >> too in a few days >> regards >> Alok... >> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 12:33 +0530, Muthu Karthick wrote: >> > Looks more like a Rubus sp. [Rosaceae] >> > >> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > Resurfacing again for ID >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > Retired Associate Professor >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > From: Alok Mahendroo <[email protected]> >> > Date: Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:51 PM >> > Subject: [efloraofindia:68299] Rubus id Kalatope al280411 >> > To: [email protected] >> > >> > >> > Dear friends, >> > A prickly climber/creeper flowering in April >> > >> > Location Kalatope, Chamba >> > Altitude 2100 mts >> > habit climber/creeper >> > Habitat wild >> > Height 1-2 mts >> > >> > regards >> > Alok >> > -- >> > Himalayan Village Education Trust >> > Village Khudgot, >> > P.O. Dalhousie >> > District Chamba >> > H.P. 176304, India >> > www.hive.interconnection.org >> > www.hivetrust.wordpress.com >> > www.forwildlife.wordpress.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Muthu Karthick, N >> > Care Earth Trust >> > #15, second main road, >> > Thillai ganga nagar, >> > Chennai - 600 061 >> > Mob: 0091 96268 33911 >> > www.careearthtrust.org >> > >> >> -- >> Himalayan Village Education Trust >> Village Khudgot, >> P.O. Dalhousie >> District Chamba >> H.P. 176304, India >> www.hive.interconnection.org >> www.hivetrust.wordpress.com >> www.forwildlife.wordpress.com >> >> > > >
