And they were originally introduced in California to keep off the animals
and intruders from orchards and farmland, usually used as fences because of
their strong sharp prickles.


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On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:32 PM, ushadi Micromini <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Gurucharan ji:
> yes the himalayan blackberry is known in the northeastern states simply as
> black raspberry... starts as red and turns black as it ripens....quite sweet
> when ripest...   there are several patches where they grow naturally, we try
> to keep them a secret along our walking paths in the wilderness, so that we
> may occasionally enjoy a sweet snack if hungry on the trail...
> great fun...
> Usha di
> ==========
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Usha di
>> I may not not know that, but growing very commonly in California is a
>> species of Rubus which is commonly known as Himalayan blackberry commonly
>> sold in stores as blackberry and favourite of Americans for its large nearly
>> 2-2.5 cm size fruits, relished as much as strawberry. This was earlier named
>> as Rubus procerus or R. fruticosus, believed to have been introduced from
>> India. Recently it has been correctly identified to be an Armenian species
>> R. armeniacus (syn: R. procerus auct (non Muell.) Focke and now also goes
>> under the name of Armenian blackberry, but name himalayan blackberry sticks.
>>
>> Incidently the R.fruticosus growing in Kashmir and some other parts of
>> Himalayas is also a distinct species R. ulmifolius.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Ushadi micromini <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dr. Oudhia and others:
>>> I have a question for Dr Oudhia or any body that may know:
>>>
>>> In urban ethnobotany in vicinity of NYC immigrant women and Herbalists
>>> from established euopean descent or native groups use infusions of
>>> rubus spp as a uterine tonic esp in preganancy...
>>>
>>> MY QUESTION:
>>> since this grows abundantly in the uttarachanchal , foot of the
>>> himalyas etc.... do local herbalists, old wives tales list this leaf
>>> for similar use?
>>>
>>> Usha di
>>> =======
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 29, 9:04 am, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Yes Rubus ellipticus
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> > Retired Associate Professor
>>> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:25 PM, manudev madhavan <
>>> [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > Muthuji..
>>> > > please cross check..
>>> > > according to the "*Plantlist*" there are 3 varieties for this
>>> species..
>>> >
>>> > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >> Dear all,
>>> > >> Thank you very much for the id. This plant is *Rubus ellipticus*
>>> Smith of
>>> > >> Rosaceae. I will try to upload the pictures of fruits soon.
>>> >
>>> > >> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Ritesh Choudhary <
>>> [email protected]>wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >>> Yes! Rubus ellipticus from me too.
>>> >
>>> > >>> Regards,
>>> > >>> Ritesh.
>>> >
>>> > >> --
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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