Usha di,
Thanks for all efforts taken in identifying this one.

Gurcharan ji,
Thanks for confirming the id.
Regards,
Aarti

On 6/24/11, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes Aarti ji
> *Heliopsis helianthoides 'Ballerina', the false sunflower*
> *
> *
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Aarti S. Khale
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Gurcharan ji,
>> Please check for Coneflower or Ragged Coneflower and Heliopsis
>> Ballerina on flowersofindia site.
>> I found them similar looking, but have to find the right one.
>> Aarti
>>
>> On 6/22/11, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I think this is a Chrysanthemum species, exact species out of my mind
>> > but
>> I
>> > have seen it flowering in our house in Kashmir,interesting because it
>> grows
>> > very tall and produces flowers late in November December. I can still
>> > see
>> > some plants in my house here. The new branches sprount every year in
>> March
>> > and flowering occurs towards the end of autumn.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> > Retired  Associate Professor
>> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Ushadi micromini <
>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Aarti: by all means lets see what the experts have to say....
>> >> did you originally identify it as a Dahlia?
>> >>
>> >> Rudbeckia laciniata:  is a cone flower.... your  flower /this does not
>> >> look like a cone flower , too many petals in multiple whorls....
>> >> although the leaves may be similar to coneflower's perhaps...
>> >>
>> >> Heliopsis helianthoides : is also an aster family, you flower again
>> >> has too many petals whorls...
>> >>  most of the heliopsis I know have one or at the most two whorls of
>> >> petals...
>> >>
>> >> unless your flower is a new cultivar off either one of these...
>> >>
>> >> My rule is when in doubt check out Herbarium specimen from reputed
>> >> herbaria...
>> >> heres a link from FSU:
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://herbarium.bio.fsu.edu/view-image.php?Image=images/herbarium/jpegs/000047350.jpg&ImageType=jpeg
>> >>
>> >> and for heliopsis helianthoides ...again look at the leaf  anatomy...
>> >> very different from yours...
>> >> at this site...http://wisplants.uwsp.edu/scripts/detail.asp?
>> >> SpCode=HELHEL
>> >>
>> >> and now for DAHLIA... see pg 18 of this pdf from Harvard edu site ...
>> >> for the leaf pattern/anatomy
>> >> arnoldia.arboretum.harvard.edu/pdf/articles/1705.pdf
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> look at the leaf... compare with your own...
>> >> why leaf... because the flower may not have fully opened to show the
>> >> typical cone of a coneflower or the central green/brownish green disk
>> >> of the heliopsis yet...
>> >> --
>> >> hope it helps...
>> >> and lets see what the elders have to note...
>> >> Usha di...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 21, 9:36 pm, "Aarti S. Khale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Dear Usha Di,
>> >> > I thought I had identified this flower but found two similar looking
>> >> > ones on flowersofindia site.So I'm a bit confused and thought of
>> >> > taking help from our expert friends.
>> >> > One is Rudbeckia laciniata, the other is Heliopsis
>> >> > helianthoides...which one is this?
>> >> > Probably Tabish ji can help.
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Aarti
>> >> >
>> >> > On Jun 21, 7:56 am, Ushadi micromini <[email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Aarti ji:  it seeks this is one of the many hybrids of DAHLIA....
>> >> >
>> >> > > usha di
>> >> > > ------
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Jun 20, 8:51 pm, "Aarti S. Khale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > > Taken on the 1st of Feb,2009 at Nairobi,Kenya.
>> >> > > > A garden plant,cultivated having medium height of about 2-3 feet.
>> >> > > > Aarti
>> >> >
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