Dear Dr Shiddamallayya. The plant in the picture is not Vidanga/Vizhalari (I think you missed to type 'r' and I read the species name as E.ribes). Please refer the links below. My photographs taken while working on the reproductive ecology of E ribes in Kudremukh national parks are saved in disks that kept in my native hence I am unable to upload now. E. ribes is a large climber/ Liana with rough bark because of lenticels and the leaves are small with lots of glands.
The plant in the picture is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam as Vijaysankar suggested (. I think Embelia basaal put under unresolved (ref: http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=embelia) species category. I haven't got any other valid information other than HS provided to think the id as Embelia basaal. But still I doubt whether these 2 are synonyms or 2 different species. Embelia ribes; http://www.ayurnepal.com/en/bidang.html http://parisaramahiti.kar.nic.in/Medicinal_plants_new/med%20plants/p89.html http://www.mpbd.info/plants/embelia-ribes.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidanga http://www.academicjournals.org/ajps/PDF/Pdf2010/Dec/Khan%20et%20al.pdf Embelia tsjeriam-cottam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMQW0pwYlMM http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2788224 Regards, Giby On Jul 20, 11:37 am, "Dr. Shiddamallayya Mathapati" <[email protected]> wrote: > The correct identity of Ayurvedic ‘Vidanga’ *Embelia* *ibes N. Burman* > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:58 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The correct identity of commercial ‘Vauding’ used in Ayurvedic preparation > > *Embelia* *basaal* (R. & S.) A. DC., which also has following synonyms > > > *Ardisia* *basaal* Roem. & Schult., Syst. 4:617-8,1819. > > > *Embelia* *robusta* Roxb., Fl. Ind. 1:587, 1832. > > > *Embelia* *acutipetalum* (Lamk. ex Hassk.) Almeida & Almeida in Journ. > > Bombay. Nat. hist. Soc. 81: 741, 1984 (1985). > > > *Embelia* *acuta* Alston in Trimen, Hands. Fl. Ceylon 6: Suppl. 177, 1931. > > > The identity and nomenclature of this species is much confused in the past > > literature due to following two main reasons: > > > 1. The plant used under the name ‘Vauding’ or ‘Vidanga’ (*Embelia* * > > ribes* Burm. f.) is of doubtful identity of which presently used name > > has lot of technical mistakes which require careful corrections in light > > of > > ‘Rules of International Code of Botanical Nomenclature’. Its medicinal > > properties are not proven beyond doubt. Actually the plant used in > > Maharashtra is altogether different species, than the plant used under > > that > > name. > > 2. Actual plant in medicine and used in commercial use in Maharashtra > > has confusions in its correct name. > > > The earlier common name for ‘Vauding’ in Maharashtra is ‘Basaal’ > > published by Drakestein van Rheede in Fifth volume of ‘Hortus Malabaricus’ > > (1685) which has made line-drawings of more than 800 species from Malabar > > Coast, presently called the West Coast of India or Coast of Konkan. In those > > days East Coast of India was called Coast of Coromandel and West Coast as > > Coast of Malabar. > > > ‘Basaal’ of van Rheede for the first time, was named under Linnaean > > binomial system of Nomenclature and under Sexual system of classification > > included in class Pentandria monogyna by Roemer and Schulters (1819) as * > > Ardisia* *basaal* Roem. & Schulters, based on presence of 5 stamens and > > one chambered cells of the ovaries in the flowers. > > > Presently genus *Ardisia* O. Swartz is placed in Robert Brown’s family > > Myrsinaceae. As per Bentham & Hooker’s, Natural system of classification our > > species falls under same family Myrsinaceae, but it differs in Generic > > concept of *Ardisia* O. Sw. and has been shifted to genus *Embelia* Burm. > > f. (nom. cons.). > > > Some authors, like Wight (1852), Cooke (1903), Santapau (1967), Malhotra & > > Moorthy (1971), Bole & Almeida (1984), Nicolson et al (1988), Ugemuge (1986) > > had confused ‘Vauding’ with *Embelia* *tsjarium-cottam*, an Euphorbiaceous > > species based on another drawings in Rheede’s ‘Hortus Malabaricus’ > > (Tsjarium-cottam, Hortus Malabaricus 5: 21-4, t-11, 1685), which goes under > > the name of *Antidesma* *ghasembilla* in our Indian Floras for which > > correct name is *Antidesma* *pubescens* Roxb. > > > regards, > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Ushadi micromini < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> Wonderful thread, and photos, esp Dr. Soares'... > > >> WAVDING is an important ayurvedic herb... > >> its listed in ayurvedic herb books as Embelica ribes.... > >> and not this.... e. basaal... > > >> any ayurvedic medicine plant expert among us? > > >> lets hear from you... > >> Usha di > >> ========= > > >> On Jul 14, 10:34 pm, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > Embelia tsjarjum-cottam is a synonym of Embelia basaal according to > >> Dr.Almeida's "Flora of Maharashtra" Vol 3. > >> > Embelia basaal is the currently accepted terminology. Sending my > >> photographs of Wavding taken in my forest at Shahapur in July last year. My > >> previous photographs of this are also available in the archives of this > >> group > >> > Regards, > >> > Neil Soares. > > >> > --- On Thu, 7/14/11, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > From: Vijayasankar <[email protected]> > >> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:74100] 140711 RV 1 > >> > To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]> > >> > Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>, "renee vyas vyas" > >> <[email protected]> > >> > Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 10:33 PM > > >> > The nomenclature of this group is confusing, to me at least! > >> > However, the posted plant is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam. > > >> > E. basaal (now E. aurantiaca) has subfleshy leaves that taste sour. > >> Fruits are edible. > > >> > Regards > >> > Vijayasankar Raman > >> > National Center for Natural Products Research > >> > University of Mississippi > > >> > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> > Hi Renee, > >> > This is Wavding [Embelia basaal]. Will send my photographs of this > >> later. > >> > Regards, > >> > Neil. > > >> > --- On Thu, 7/14/11, renee vyas vyas <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > From: renee vyas vyas <[email protected]> > >> > Subject: [efloraofindia:74085] 140711 RV 1 > >> > To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > >> > Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 9:35 PM > > >> > Dear Friends, > > >> > I saw this woody climber flowering in Sudhagadh district, about 100 km > >> from Mumbai in wild. > > >> > Please help to identify this climber. > > >> > Regards, > > >> > Renee > > >> > Embelia basaal, Wavding flowering 1.jpg > >> > 89KViewDownload > > >> > Embelia basaal, Wavding flowering 2.jpg > >> > 105KViewDownload > > >> > Embelia basaal, Wavding flowering 3.jpg > >> > 80KViewDownload > > >> > Embelia basaal, Wavding flowering 4.jpg > >> > 100KViewDownload > > >> > Embelia basaal, Wavding flowering 5.jpg > >> > 70KViewDownload > > >> > Embelia basaal, Wavding flowering 6.jpg > >> > 93KViewDownload > > >> > Embelia basaal, Wavding flowering 7.jpg > >> > 95KViewDownload > > > -- > > - H.S. > > > A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of > > stone > > -- > Dr. Shiddamallayya N, > Survey of Medicinal Plant Unit > National Ayurveda Dietetics Research Institute, > (A unit of C C R A S, > Dept. of AYUSH, Mini. of H & F W, > Govt. of India, New Delhi), > G C P Annexe, Ashoka Pillar > Jayanagar I block, > Bangalore - 560 011 > 0 - 9449644341
