Thanks Prashant Ji On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Prashant awale <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Balkar ji, > > Few months back i had seen one Ehretia Shrub at the outskirts of Pune. > After reffereing to "Flora of Bombay-- T.Cooke" i concluded that the > shrub i had seen is Ehretia aspera,Roxb. This was also validated by > Shrikant ji. As per Shrikant ji, E. aspera Roxb. is a common shrub > around Pune where as E. laevis Roxb. is a tree planted in Pune and > has bigger and glabrous leaves. The syn. E. aspera might have a > different author. > > I am sending the scanned copies of the relevant pages from "Flora of > Bombay-- T.Cooke". > > It clearly indicates E. aspera as Ehretia aspera, Roxb. > > Kindly have a look at these pages... > > Also sharing the photographs of E.aspera,Roxb. > > Regards > Prashant > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sir Situation not clear till now will be going there again soon to see > the > > fruits and other characters > > > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Kew Plant List treats E. aspera as synonym of E. laevis > >> > >> -- > >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >> Retired Associate Professor > >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> The key in BSI Flora of Mah. > >>> 1. Flowers usually in terminal corymbose-cymes > >>> E.aspera. > >>> 1. Flowers in axillary or lateral or terminal lax cymes of > >>> unilateral spikes or racemes: > >>> 2. Leaves symmetric, dark brown when dry, cymes > >>> longer than 1/2 the length of lamina > >>> E.indica > >>> 2. Leaves asymmetric, pale greenish when dry, cymes > >>> longer than lamina > >>> E. laevis > >>> Ehretia aspera is very common around Pune while E laevis is relatively > >>> rare. > >>> My field observation : Generally A. aspera are shrub like. The leaves > are > >>> rough as against glabrous in Ehretia laevis > >>> Will wait for further comments. > >>> Dr Phadke > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Sir Agree with your observations. As it is being identified as E > leavis > >>>> by us/our teachers and none of the flora of haryana by Jain etal as > well as > >>>> Kumar reported E obtusifolia from Haryana, so we have not even tried > to > >>>> think about other sp. Perhaps a great mistake. one more thing it is > very > >>>> common in Karnal Panipat distriact so a how a taxonomist can skip this > while > >>>> working on flora of such a small and easily approachable state. > >>>> Thanks for clarifying the situation. However i will try to visit that > >>>> place again to see the situation Again (Tree/shrub) > >>>> Thanks > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Balkar ji > >>>>> There are a few things I find difficult yo ignore. > >>>>> 1. Ehretia laevis is one of the few very early flowering trees in > >>>>> Delhi, starting its flowering towards end of February and flowering > season > >>>>> ends around 10th of March. Even fruits are fully mature in June You > have > >>>>> photographs well flowering plant 18 June. > >>>>> 2. I have checked my photographs from Delhi, the corolla is clearly > >>>>> with acute tips. Yours has corolla lobes with rounded tips. > >>>>> 3. The leaves of E. laevis are acute to acuminate. Yours new > photograph > >>>>> shows obtuse leaves. > >>>>> 4. E. laevis is a tree. You say it is perhaps a shrub. > >>>>> All these suggest your plant to be E. obtusifolia. You may please > >>>>> check. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>>> Retired Associate Professor > >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Satish Ji, Gurcharan Ji and HS Ji > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:42 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes it is Ehretia laevis,, lovely pic... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Balkar Arya <[email protected] > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sir Pics were taken on 18 june 2011 as printed on pics itself. In > >>>>>>>> those days i was on Flying Squad duty in Colleges of karnal. > Although it was > >>>>>>>> not so small we may say it woody shrub or small tree. attaching i > more photo > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ehretia laevis, I hope you have photographed it in April-May, > when > >>>>>>>>> it flowers in Delhi > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor > >>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Satish Phadke > >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> It may be Ehretia aspera if it is a shrub rather than a tree. If > >>>>>>>>>> you have more closeup pictures of leaves it will be useful for > >>>>>>>>>> differentiating...(Still it can be Ehretia laevis though) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Balkar Arya > >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all > >>>>>>>>>>> Ehretia laevis > >>>>>>>>>>> from Karnal By Pass. shot near the boundary of DWR Karnal > >>>>>>>>>>> Family: Boraginaceae > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh > >>>>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology > >>>>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat > >>>>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 > >>>>>>>>>>> 09416262964 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh > >>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology > >>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat > >>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 > >>>>>>>> 09416262964 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> - H.S. > >>>>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere > >>>>>>> heart of stone > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh > >>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology > >>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat > >>>>>> Haryana-132103 > >>>>>> 09416262964 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Regards > >>>> > >>>> Dr Balkar Singh > >>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology > >>>> Arya P G College, Panipat > >>>> Haryana-132103 > >>>> 09416262964 > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards > > > > Dr Balkar Singh > > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology > > Arya P G College, Panipat > > Haryana-132103 > > 09416262964 > > > -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
