Dear Vijay,

As you said "But, Phaulopsis imbricata has characteristic, closely
overlapping bracts and white flowers." I too think that the bracts here are
different from that of Phaulopsis.

Let us see whether Pravin ji could collect information on bractioles.
If that is clarified, I think, we can confirm.


Regards,
Giby





On 4 August 2011 10:35, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you Vijay for the reply.  Phaulopsis shows great variation from place
> to place.
>
>
> Then I would like to know one important character of the given plant that
> whether the inflorescence has bracteoles or not.
>
> My conclusion is;
>
> If bracteoles present then, Lepidagathis and it can be L. scariosa
> If not then, Phaulopsis.
>
> I too think that Dinesh jis picture in the link given by Vijay is
> Lepidagathis (from the pattern of inflorescence) If get a close up of flower
> then things would be better. Herbs are tricky and the keys to id them are
> too tricky and complicated.
>
> I think Prawin ji can clarify on this aspect for us, if possible.
>
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Giby
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 August 2011 03:34, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the good research, Giby. Its getting interesting...
>> But, Phaulopsis imbricata has characteristic, closely overlapping bracts
>> and white flowers. Pl see
>> http://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Himalayan%20Ruellia.html
>> The posted pictures look different from Dyschoriste vagans in this FoI
>> link
>> http://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Wandering%20Snakeherb.htmlThe 
>> ventricose corolla is clearly seen in the close-up shot. And the
>> inflorescence also looks different.
>> My guess is Lepidagathis scariosa, but it needs confirmation.
>> So.....is the search still on?!
>> -------
>> Dinesh ji, a web search for Phaulopsis imbricata took me to your link
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5593762443/lightbox/ which
>> looks like a Lepidagathis species to me. Pl correct me if i am wrong.
>> -------
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Smilax004 <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> The corolla should be distinctly bi-lipped to be species of
>>> Lepidagathis.
>>>
>>> Here the corolla is not bi-lipped hence not a species of
>>> Lepidagathis.
>>>
>>> The distinction between Dyscoriste and Phaulopsis is too difficult
>>> without having the specimen in hand as most of the key characters are
>>> minute and are not visible in pictures (placenta, bracteoles, etc).
>>>
>>> But considering one distinguishing character, according to Gamble, I
>>> think this is Phaulopsis imbricata with slight difference from
>>> specimens from further south.
>>>
>>> The distinguishing character is, according to Gamble, in Dyscoriste
>>> the flowers are produced in axillary clusters here it is apparently
>>> terminal.
>>>
>>> Furhter, D vagans has blue flowers according to Gamble!
>>>
>>> Again, the character of flower becoming scarious (Thin, membranous,
>>> and dry) upon age is visible in the second picture, I assume.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now my bet is for Phaulopsis imbricata.
>>>
>>> Ref: Flora of Presidency of Madrass by Gamble pp. 1003-1068.
>>>
>>> Gamble mentioned P. imbricata with its present synonym Micranthes
>>> oppositifolius.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>> Giby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/scarious#ixzz1TzMz3M2E
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 11, 5:04 pm, Pravin Kawale <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> > ID Please
>>> > A small herb at Phansad WLS
>>> > habitat:Moist deciduos Forest
>>> > 10Apr,2011
>>> > Thanks in advance
>>> >
>>> > DSC05066.JPG
>>> > DSC05068.JPG
>>> > DSC05073.JPG
>>> > DSC05064.JPG
>>> >
>>> > These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google.
>>> > Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/
>>> >
>>> >  DSC05066.JPG
>>> > 61KViewDownload
>>> >
>>> >  DSC05068.JPG
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>>> >
>>> >  DSC05073.JPG
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>>> >
>>> >  DSC05064.JPG
>>> > 49KViewDownload
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>
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> Royal Enclave,
> Jakkur Post, Srirampura
> Bangalore- 560064
> India
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Royal Enclave,
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