Dear friends ... tending to agree with Pudji's ID of *Syzygium samarangense* . Regards. Dinesh
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:36 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > “As far as I can see, all are *Syzygium samarangense* (Bl.) Merr. & LM > > Perry. Although the last four pictures show only flowers with > relatively short stamens, but the leaves are still belonged to S. > samarangense. I may be wrong because in some cases there are some > intermediates between both samarangense and aqueum. > > Regards, > Pudji Widodo” > > > > “At ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/005/AC775E/ac775e09.pdf > > Description: > ... aqueum: 3–10m high with short crooked trunk, 30–50cm in diameter, often > branching near base. Irregular crown. Leaves opposite, elliptic-cordate to > obovate-oblong, 7– 25cm long, 2.5–16cm wide, with 0.5– 1.5cm long leafstalk, > sometimes with aromatic smell when crushed. Inflorescence at tip of twigs or > from leaf axils with 3–7 yellow-white flowers, 2.5–3.5cm in diameter, calyx > 5–7mm long, 4 petals about 7mm long. Fruit cone-shaped, glossy white to red, > 1.5– 2cm long and 2.5–3.5cm wide, watery with 1–2, sometimes 6 seeds. > ... samarangense very similar but is somewhat larger, has thick, 3–5mm long > leaf stalks, 15mm long calyx and larger pyriform fruits. Improved cultivars > have green fruits. Leaves always aromatic smelling. > > Key characteristics: Trunk short, crooked, often branching from base; crown > irregular; leaves opposite; flowers yellow-white; > ... aqueum: 5–15 mm long leafstalk and 5–7mm long calyx, small fruits; > ... samarangense: 3– 5mm long leaf stalk, 15mm long calyx and larger fruit; > aromatic > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > At World Agroforestry Centre ... It is not easy to distinguish between the > various S. aqueum and S. samarangense fruits. > however: > > The wax jambu is glossy - indeed wax-like - and the flesh is rather dry. > > http://www.worldagroforestrycentre.org/sea/Products/AFDbases/AF/asp/SpeciesInfo.asp?SpID=18099 > > The water apple is a watery, thirst-quenching fruit with a glistening, > almost translucent skin. > > http://www.worldagroforestrycentre.org/Sea/Products/AFDbases/AF/asp/SpeciesInfo.asp?SpID=18097 > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > *The hand painted illustration in the FAO document showing the conical > versus pyriform fruits, make me more inclined towards Syzygium aqueum. > *Am sure, the fruits that are sold seasonally in and around Mumbai, Thane, > or even down south near and around Mangalore, are water apples. > Regards. > Dinesh” > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > Date: 4 May 2011 15:01 > Subject: [efloraofindia:68800] DV :: 20NOV07 - 01MAY08 :: Syzygium ¿ aqueum > / samarangense ? > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Dear friends, > > Manudev ji's query of how are *Syzgium aqueum* and *Syzygium > samarangense*triggered me post these for ID. > After much of search on internet, my guess: *Syzgium aqueum* ... please > validate. > > > Viewed at Native Place Resort, Kamshet, Near Lonavala ... 01 MAY 08 > > [image: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense > ?]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2463835936/> > [image: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense > ?]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2462958539/> > [image: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense > ?]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2462956885/> > [image: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense > ?]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2463790708/> > > > Viewed at MIDC Andheri ... 01 APR 08 > > [image: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense > ?]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2391761197/> > [image: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense > ?]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2392591646/> > > > Viewed at MIDC Andheri ... 20 NOV 07 > > [image: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense > ?]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2093657438/> > [image: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense > ?]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2093660126/> > [image: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense > ?]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2092863817/> > [image: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense > ?]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2092860027/> > > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg ([email protected]) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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