very nice .. Pnakj. read the paper, interesting... Would have been better to have a set of photographs of the there leaf t ypes or line drawings... but back then you must have had time and money crunch and the magazine space crunch.. so its ok... did you save the old data? and slides? Usha di too sleepy , 350 am going to catch some zzzzzs . Be well ===============
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > Respected Mam > I was actually doing foliar studies on three species of this genus and > is one of my first free lance article before my MSc results came out. > Its a very basic paper hope you wont dislike it. > I had a small garden with huge collection of wild as well as > ornamental plants which I started making since my 4-5th standard. You > would be surprised to know that my first bonsai I started making was > in 7th standard and it stayed with me till I came to Dehradun, but > somehow due to negligence the root got infected by something and the > plant died from base. One of my passion during those days was to > collect climbers, Passiflora and Vitaceae just to name a few. Now that > we shifted to new rented house and I hadnt been home since past 6 > years, till recently, many of my plants couldnt survive, but still > there are many. > Pankaj > > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 2:49 AM, ushadi Micromini > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Pankaj: > > Nice observations, where did you write about it earlier? What > experiments > > did you do? any papers or was it informal casual writing like we do > > here...? > > Can you send me the link about casual writing or scientific writing, ie > > papers? ? > > > > Tha protocarnivorous thing was news to me when I read the abstract upon > > googling, > > that's why I wrote about it, it intrigued me because I had not heard > anybody > > talk of it or write about this Passiflora foetida being one.. > > > > Live and learn... > > Thanks. > > Usha di > > == > > > > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> My plant from Dehradun. > >> Yes this plant is amazing. > >> Earlier my casual believe was the plant has glandular hairs to repel > >> insects as it also has a strange odour. But my experiments with the > >> plant proved that there was something more. It had this ability to > >> make the insects feel dizzy or something not normal happened to the > >> insects I used. I had no means to prove what!! I believed that there > >> was something which attracted insects to the plants. Apart from being > >> attracted, the same gland were used for digestion of the insects too, > >> usually very small sized ones. > >> Today Vijay made me happy to realise that my thoughts were not absurd > :p. > >> > >> Usually, the carnivorous plants attract insects and trap them. Sundew > >> has similar droplets on the hairs, but that is sticky and is not > >> actually containing any food for insects. But this plant attracts and > >> then lures them with actual food on the droplets and then traps them > >> or kills them or makes them immobile. So in that case, this should be > >> a new type of trapping for carnivorous plant. > >> > >> But yes, I had not seen this reference before. Thanks a lot for sharing. > >> > >> Pankaj > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Aug 20, 12:16 pm, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> Dear Dr. Raman, thank you ...that was very prompt... > >> >> > >> >> the autoradiograph is interesting and the bracts picked up the most > >> >> labelled > >> >> phenylalanine... so the organ that's source of enzymes is also the > >> >> uptake > >> >> organ??? > >> >> > >> >> I'll keep the link you sent me as a source, I downloaded and read the > >> >> paper > >> >> you sent in, thanks again.. > >> >> > >> >> Usha di > >> >> ===== > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Vijayasankar > >> >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Dr. Usha, > >> >> > >> >> > Open access to the article is available at: > >> >> >http://www.ias.ac.in/jarch/jbiosci/20/657-664 > >> >> > However, I hv also attached the pdf here... > >> >> > I knew that the bracts exude a sticky substance, but I never > expected > >> >> > digestive enzymes in it...its an information to me...thanks to > all... > >> >> > Dear Pankaj, your hypothesis (in an another thread) seems to be > >> >> > correct > >> >> > (don't think its too late :)). You have amazing research > aptitude... > >> >> > >> >> > Regards > >> >> > >> >> > Vijayasankar Raman > >> >> > National Center for Natural Products Research > >> >> > University of Mississippi > >> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Ushadi micromini < > >> >> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> Not native to India...AND NEWLY OPENED FLOWER LOOKS VERY PRETTY > >> >> >> LIKE > >> >> >> ANY GARDEN variety PASSIFLORA species... > >> >> >>http://www.plantoftheweek.org/image/passifloraf.jpg > >> >> > >> >> >> Now naturalized in most tropical areas... is on a noxious weed > >> >> >> list: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > http://www.invasivespecies.net/database/species/ecology.asp?si=341&fr... > >> >> > >> >> >> Though it seems to have some nice redeeming value... > >> >> >> I liked the last sentence in WIKI .. that its saponin richness is > >> >> >> useful in making nondetergent sahmpoo/soap... > >> >> >> love that... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passiflora_foetida > >> >> > >> >> >> And Australian site that tracks useful plants list it: > >> >> >>http://www.newcrops.uq.edu.au/listing/passiflorafoetida.htm > >> >> > >> >> >> GO FIGURE...!!! > >> >> > >> >> >> Edict that Trash of one is gold of other....must be true !! > >> >> > >> >> >> About the shampoo soap....wonder if someone has made it??? > >> >> > >> >> >> WHAT INTRIGUED ME THE MOST IS A PAPER BY DR RADHARAMANI of > >> >> >> Bangalore... > >> >> >> which states that the intricate network of the bracts on the > surface > >> >> >> of the fruit makes this plant a protocarnivorous, or borderline > >> >> >> carnivorous... ((Radhamani, T. R., L. Sudarshana, et al. (1995). > >> >> >> Defense and carnivory: Dual role of bracts in Passiflora foetida. > >> >> >> Journal of Biosciences Bangalore 20(5): 657-664. {a} Promotion > Res. > >> >> >> Dev. Efforts Selected Crops., PC Unit, Bangalore 560 065, India > )) > >> >> >> I > >> >> >> could access only the abstract... the pdf needs to be bought at > >> >> >> springerlink site!!! > >> >> > >> >> >> DOES ANY ONE AT EFLORA HAVE ACCESS TO DR RADHARAMANI or to this > >> >> >> paper?? > >> >> > >> >> >> Usha di > >> >> > >> >> >> =========== > >> >> >> On Aug 20, 5:42 am, Balkar Arya <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> > Yes P foetida > >> >> > >> >> >> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar < > >> >> >> [email protected]>wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> > > Yes this is Passiflora foetida. > >> >> >> > > Pankaj > >> >> > >> >> >> > > On Aug 19, 10:11 pm, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> > >> >> >> > > wrote: > >> >> >> > > > Looks like *Passiflora foetida*. > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > Regards > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > Vijayasankar Raman > >> >> >> > > > National Center for Natural Products Research > >> >> >> > > > University of Mississippi > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:51 AM, ravi g > >> >> >> > > > <[email protected]> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > I require your help in identification of this Passiflora > >> >> >> > > > > species. > >> >> >> I > >> >> >> > > had > >> >> >> > > > > photographed it in Bangalore growing wildly along the > shores > >> >> >> > > > > of > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> > > lakes. > >> >> >> > > > > It is a wild creeper and it is surely not the passion > fruit > >> >> >> > > > > plant. > >> >> >> I > >> >> >> > > would > >> >> >> > > > > be grateful if you could help me in identification of this > >> >> >> species! > >> >> > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > Regards > >> >> > >> >> >> > Dr Balkar Singh > >> >> >> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology > >> >> >> > Arya P G College, Panipat > >> >> >> > Haryana-132103 > >> >> >> > 09416262964 > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> *********************************************** > >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > >> > >> > >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> Research Associate > >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > >> Department of Habitat Ecology > >> Wildlife Institute of India > >> Post Box # 18 > >> Dehradun - 248001, India > > > > > > > > -- > *********************************************** > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > Research Associate > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > Department of Habitat Ecology > Wildlife Institute of India > Post Box # 18 > Dehradun - 248001, India >
