Dear Neil: I have a great deal of respect for your diagnostic abilities... and I had indeed doubts about my suspected idea... because of the leaf shape, color and NO redness when rubbed......
BUT .... the size of the leaves throws me..still.. AND I took the pictures on 15th August... nothing would have changed in these 6 says... But yes I will go back in a months time and take more pictures... and I'll repeat it till is fully grown...over the years... would be a nice project... This may be an interesting fact ...in the life history of Kadam... may be saplings' first leaves are humongous to manufacture as much food as quickly as possible and grow fast.... till its higher // closer to the sun... this sapling apprantly grew sooo tall in the span of three months... May be we need a section of "Pediatric Biology " in Botany... growth patterns and anatomy of saplings... which may be very different than the mature tree.... ha ha .. Usha di === On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Neil Soares <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi, > Have encountered such variations. Please go and check the tree again. > Regards, > Neil Soares. > > --- On *Sun, 8/21/11, Ushadi micromini <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Ushadi micromini <[email protected]> > Subject: [efloraofindia:77862] Re: Large Leaf tree Sapling Is it Tectona > Grandis? UD 8212011 002 > > To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > Date: Sunday, August 21, 2011, 10:00 PM > > > Dear Neil, with such large leaves... > there is a kadam tree here, leaves are about 6,7,or 8 inches long at > the most... > but this one has 30 inches long leaves??? > > Usha di > ==== > > > On Aug 21, 9:22 pm, Neil Soares > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > wrote: > > Hi, > > Negative. This is Kadam [Neolamarckia cadamba]. > > Regards, > > Neil Soares. > > > > --- On Sun, 8/21/11, ushadi Micromini > > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > wrote: > > > > From: ushadi Micromini > > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: [efloraofindia:77843] Large Leaf tree Sapling Is it Tectona > Grandis? UD 8212011 002 > > To: "efloraofindia" > > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > > Date: Sunday, August 21, 2011, 9:21 PM > > > > Dear All: > > > > On 14th August zipping by on this street on the way to post office I > noticed these humongous leaves... > > thought it might be Tectona Grandis.... > > Next day went back and took pictures and talked to the local folks who > run tea stalls and some Bhujia shops on the sidewalk (only they were around > to talk to ) , one of the guys said it grew very fast... this height see > figure 1, was achieved in just 3 months.... some branches had come out near > the ground which he said he cut them off... some others said it was a > kadam gachh (gachh = tree in bengali) ... > > sure!!! dont beleive it!!! > > > > The leaves are very large... 1.5 feet wide by 2.5 feet long... I measured > it... see figures 2 and 3... to me the leaf shape just does not match what > I remember as tectona grandis.... am confused... > > > > I rubbed the leaf underside, even wetted it with saliva..and rubbed ... > no red color developed... see figure 6, the white arrows surround the wetted > rubbed surface, you can still see a little shine?... of cource its the > lower leaf ... not the uppermost "young leaf"... but in the past no matter > which leaf I tested on already identified Teconia grandis, I got the red > color, in Bengal, Gujarat, Bihar and even in USA.. at a botanical Garden ... > > > > Currently there are no branches... > > > > The tree came up on its own.. in harsh broken stony fragments containing > soil... see figure..7. > > > > Date/Time- 8/15/2011 > > Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Sea level or slightly below it, Ganges > plain , Streets of Kolkata,. > > Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- came up on its own per local history > > Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Tree > > Height/Length- Sapling about 10 feet or 11 feet > > Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- very large, 2.5 by 1.5 foot ( foot, not > inches) > > Inflorescence Type/ Size- NONE yet > > Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- NA > > Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-NA > > Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- NA > > > > NA= not applicable > > > > Please help..... > > Thank you > > > > Usha di > > === > > > > > >
