Actually it is more close to Asparagaceae according to recent findings. I hope you know that Liliaceae is now in another group Liliales and Amaryllidaceae in Asparagales. Its complicated but in simple words, Orchidaceae is more close to Asparagaceae and Amaryllidaceae and Zingiberaceae is more close to Commelinaceae. and both are in two different groups (scientifically speaking Orders). Pankaj
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok. thanks. > In the series of evolution are Orchid near any where of Curcuma? > I dont know being non botanist. But appearence is very close. > Madhuri > > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma >> Valeton >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:39 PM >> Check this illustration. It will help >> you in making plates. >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > ok. will disect the flower of curcuma next time. >> > Thanks >> > Madhuri >> > >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: >> ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma Valeton >> >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> >> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:14 PM >> >> Yes Curcuma does look like a bit of >> >> Orchid because of the rostellum >> >> like structure. But there is no pollinia in >> Curcuma, there >> >> are proper >> >> anthers. >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Madhuri Pejaver >> <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Great' But still one more q remained >> unanswered. Dont >> >> the flowers look more like Orchid flowers? >> >> > Madhuri >> >> > >> >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Dr Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> From: Dr Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: >> ZINGIBERACEAE: >> >> Curcuma euchroma Valeton >> >> >> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >> >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 6:39 >> AM >> >> >> The inflorescence is green when young >> >> >> and then turns to red gradually. >> >> >> If you press the round thing, it oozes >> out the >> >> fragrant >> >> >> nectar and >> >> >> water. >> >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 18, 3:16 am, Madhuri Pejaver >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > I remembered the nest of harvester >> ants. Very >> >> nice. >> >> >> > My questions >> >> >> > Does the infloresence appear green >> when young >> >> and red >> >> >> when old? >> >> >> > Dont the flowers give appearence of >> orchid >> >> flower? >> >> >> > Madhuri >> >> >> > >> >> >> > --- On Sat, 17/9/11, raju das <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > From: raju das <[email protected]> >> >> >> > Subject: [efloraofindia:82104] Re: >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE: >> >> >> Curcuma euchroma Valeton >> >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >> >> > Cc: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]> >> >> >> > Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, >> 8:51 PM >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Dear Sir, >> >> >> > Thanks for showing such >> a beautiful Curcuma >> >> from >> >> >> Hong Kong. I have attached my >> photographs >> >> .......from >> >> >> Indo-Bhutan border area. I need your >> help >> >> to validate the >> >> >> ID >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Regards, >> >> >> > Raju Das >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:41 PM, >> raju <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded message >> ---------- >> >> >> > From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> >> > Date: Sep 17, 5:54 pm >> >> >> > Subject: ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma >> euchroma >> >> Valeton >> >> >> > To: efloraofindia >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Curcuma euchroma Valeton, Bull. >> Jard. Bot. >> >> Buitenzorg, >> >> >> II, 27: 42 >> >> >> > (1918). >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Synonyms: >> >> >> > Amomum zerumbet J.König in >> A.J.Retzius, >> >> Observ. Bot. >> >> >> 3: 55 (1783), >> >> >> > nom. illeg. >> >> >> > Erndlia subpersonata Giseke, Prael. >> Ord. Nat. >> >> Pl.: 252 >> >> >> (1792). >> >> >> > Curcuma zerumbet Roxb., Asiat. Res. >> 11: 332 >> >> (1810). >> >> >> > Curcuma officinalis Salisb., Trans. >> Hort. >> >> Soc. London >> >> >> 1: 285 (1812). >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Family: ZINGIBERACEAE >> >> >> > Distribution: Jawa >> >> >> > Current Location: KFBG, Tai Po, New >> >> Territories, Hong >> >> >> Kong (from >> >> >> > gardens) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Regards >> >> >> > Pankaj >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > >> >> *********************************************** >> >> >> > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and >> Species >> >> Data >> >> >> Deficient !!" >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> >> > Conservation Officer >> >> >> > Flora Conservation Department >> >> >> > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden >> (KFBG) >> >> Corporation >> >> >> > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New >> Territories, Hong >> >> Kong >> >> >> > >> >> >> > email: [email protected] >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - >> 8:30am to >> >> 5:30pm) >> >> >> > +852 5431 6094 >> (mobile) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Slide47.JPG >> >> >> > 221KViewDownload >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Slide48.JPG >> >> >> > 144KViewDownload >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Slide49.JPG >> >> >> > 277KViewDownload >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Slide50.JPG >> >> >> > 398KViewDownload >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Raju Das >> >> >> > Nature's Foster >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *********************************************** >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data >> Deficient >> >> !!" >> >> >> >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> Conservation Officer >> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) >> Corporation >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong >> >> >> >> email: [email protected] >> >> [email protected] >> >> [email protected] >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 >> (mobile) >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> *********************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient >> !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Conservation Officer >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong >> >> email: [email protected] >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> > -- *********************************************** "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong email: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 (mobile)
