Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum! Families with examples i knew. but not the merger. S o when we go for these families will get further surprises. ok Thanks for patience to answer me Madhuri
--- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma Valeton > To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> > Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:58 PM > Actually it is more close to > Asparagaceae according to recent > findings. I hope you know that Liliaceae is now in another > group > Liliales and Amaryllidaceae in Asparagales. > Its complicated but in simple words, Orchidaceae is more > close to > Asparagaceae and Amaryllidaceae and Zingiberaceae is more > close to > Commelinaceae. and both are in two different groups > (scientifically > speaking Orders). > Pankaj > > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Ok. thanks. > > In the series of evolution are Orchid near any where > of Curcuma? > > I dont know being non botanist. But appearence is very > close. > > Madhuri > > > > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: > ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma Valeton > >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> > >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:39 PM > >> Check this illustration. It will help > >> you in making plates. > >> Pankaj > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Madhuri Pejaver > <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > ok. will disect the flower of curcuma next > time. > >> > Thanks > >> > Madhuri > >> > > >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: > >> ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma Valeton > >> >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> > >> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:14 > PM > >> >> Yes Curcuma does look like a bit of > >> >> Orchid because of the rostellum > >> >> like structure. But there is no pollinia > in > >> Curcuma, there > >> >> are proper > >> >> anthers. > >> >> Pankaj > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Madhuri > Pejaver > >> <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Great' But still one more q > remained > >> unanswered. Dont > >> >> the flowers look more like Orchid > flowers? > >> >> > Madhuri > >> >> > > >> >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Dr Pankaj > Kumar <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> From: Dr Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> >> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:82122] > Re: > >> ZINGIBERACEAE: > >> >> Curcuma euchroma Valeton > >> >> >> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > >> >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, > 2011, 6:39 > >> AM > >> >> >> The inflorescence is green when > young > >> >> >> and then turns to red > gradually. > >> >> >> If you press the round thing, it > oozes > >> out the > >> >> fragrant > >> >> >> nectar and > >> >> >> water. > >> >> >> Pankaj > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Sep 18, 3:16 am, Madhuri > Pejaver > >> <[email protected]> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > I remembered the nest of > harvester > >> ants. Very > >> >> nice. > >> >> >> > My questions > >> >> >> > Does the infloresence > appear green > >> when young > >> >> and red > >> >> >> when old? > >> >> >> > Dont the flowers give > appearence of > >> orchid > >> >> flower? > >> >> >> > Madhuri > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > --- On Sat, 17/9/11, raju > das <[email protected]> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > From: raju das <[email protected]> > >> >> >> > Subject: > [efloraofindia:82104] Re: > >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE: > >> >> >> Curcuma euchroma Valeton > >> >> >> > To: [email protected] > >> >> >> > Cc: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]> > >> >> >> > Date: Saturday, 17 > September, 2011, > >> 8:51 PM > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Dear Sir, > >> >> >> > Thanks for showing such > >> a beautiful Curcuma > >> >> from > >> >> >> Hong Kong. I have attached my > >> photographs > >> >> .......from > >> >> >> Indo-Bhutan border area. I need > your > >> help > >> >> to validate the > >> >> >> ID > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Regards, > >> >> >> > Raju Das > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at > 8:41 PM, > >> raju <[email protected]> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded > message > >> ---------- > >> >> >> > From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> >> >> > Date: Sep 17, 5:54 pm > >> >> >> > Subject: ZINGIBERACEAE: > Curcuma > >> euchroma > >> >> Valeton > >> >> >> > To: efloraofindia > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Curcuma euchroma Valeton, > Bull. > >> Jard. Bot. > >> >> Buitenzorg, > >> >> >> II, 27: 42 > >> >> >> > (1918). > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Synonyms: > >> >> >> > Amomum zerumbet J.König > in > >> A.J.Retzius, > >> >> Observ. Bot. > >> >> >> 3: 55 (1783), > >> >> >> > nom. illeg. > >> >> >> > Erndlia subpersonata > Giseke, Prael. > >> Ord. Nat. > >> >> Pl.: 252 > >> >> >> (1792). > >> >> >> > Curcuma zerumbet Roxb., > Asiat. Res. > >> 11: 332 > >> >> (1810). > >> >> >> > Curcuma officinalis > Salisb., Trans. > >> Hort. > >> >> Soc. London > >> >> >> 1: 285 (1812). > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Family: ZINGIBERACEAE > >> >> >> > Distribution: Jawa > >> >> >> > Current Location: KFBG, Tai > Po, New > >> >> Territories, Hong > >> >> >> Kong (from > >> >> >> > gardens) > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Regards > >> >> >> > Pankaj > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > > >> >> > *********************************************** > >> >> >> > "Taxonomists getting > Extinct and > >> Species > >> >> Data > >> >> >> Deficient !!" > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. > (Orchidaceae) > >> >> >> > Conservation Officer > >> >> >> > Flora Conservation > Department > >> >> >> > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic > Garden > >> (KFBG) > >> >> Corporation > >> >> >> > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New > >> Territories, Hong > >> >> Kong > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > email: [email protected] > >> >> >> > [email protected] > >> >> >> > [email protected] > >> >> >> > Phone: +852 2483 7128 > (office - > >> 8:30am to > >> >> 5:30pm) > >> >> >> > +852 5431 > 6094 > >> (mobile) > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Slide47.JPG > >> >> >> > 221KViewDownload > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Slide48.JPG > >> >> >> > 144KViewDownload > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Slide49.JPG > >> >> >> > 277KViewDownload > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Slide50.JPG > >> >> >> > 398KViewDownload > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > Raju Das > >> >> >> > Nature's Foster > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> > *********************************************** > >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species > Data > >> Deficient > >> >> !!" > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> >> Conservation Officer > >> >> Flora Conservation Department > >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) > >> Corporation > >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, > Hong Kong > >> >> > >> >> email: [email protected] > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to > 5:30pm) > >> >> +852 5431 6094; +852 > 9436 6251 > >> (mobile) > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> *********************************************** > >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data > Deficient > >> !!" > >> > >> > >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> Conservation Officer > >> Flora Conservation Department > >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) > Corporation > >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong > >> > >> email: [email protected] > >> [email protected] > >> [email protected] > >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 > (mobile) > >> > > > > > > -- > *********************************************** > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient > !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > Conservation Officer > Flora Conservation Department > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong > > email: [email protected] > [email protected] > [email protected] > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >
