Orchids and Orchidilogists are full of surprises. But I think this will stay. Best wishes. Pankaj
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> wrote: > Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum! > Families with examples i knew. but not the merger. S o when we go for these > families will get further surprises. > ok Thanks for patience to answer me > Madhuri > > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma >> Valeton >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:58 PM >> Actually it is more close to >> Asparagaceae according to recent >> findings. I hope you know that Liliaceae is now in another >> group >> Liliales and Amaryllidaceae in Asparagales. >> Its complicated but in simple words, Orchidaceae is more >> close to >> Asparagaceae and Amaryllidaceae and Zingiberaceae is more >> close to >> Commelinaceae. and both are in two different groups >> (scientifically >> speaking Orders). >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Ok. thanks. >> > In the series of evolution are Orchid near any where >> of Curcuma? >> > I dont know being non botanist. But appearence is very >> close. >> > Madhuri >> > >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: >> ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma Valeton >> >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> >> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:39 PM >> >> Check this illustration. It will help >> >> you in making plates. >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Madhuri Pejaver >> <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > ok. will disect the flower of curcuma next >> time. >> >> > Thanks >> >> > Madhuri >> >> > >> >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma Valeton >> >> >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> >> >> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >> >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:14 >> PM >> >> >> Yes Curcuma does look like a bit of >> >> >> Orchid because of the rostellum >> >> >> like structure. But there is no pollinia >> in >> >> Curcuma, there >> >> >> are proper >> >> >> anthers. >> >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Madhuri >> Pejaver >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Great' But still one more q >> remained >> >> unanswered. Dont >> >> >> the flowers look more like Orchid >> flowers? >> >> >> > Madhuri >> >> >> > >> >> >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Dr Pankaj >> Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> From: Dr Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:82122] >> Re: >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE: >> >> >> Curcuma euchroma Valeton >> >> >> >> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, >> 2011, 6:39 >> >> AM >> >> >> >> The inflorescence is green when >> young >> >> >> >> and then turns to red >> gradually. >> >> >> >> If you press the round thing, it >> oozes >> >> out the >> >> >> fragrant >> >> >> >> nectar and >> >> >> >> water. >> >> >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 18, 3:16 am, Madhuri >> Pejaver >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I remembered the nest of >> harvester >> >> ants. Very >> >> >> nice. >> >> >> >> > My questions >> >> >> >> > Does the infloresence >> appear green >> >> when young >> >> >> and red >> >> >> >> when old? >> >> >> >> > Dont the flowers give >> appearence of >> >> orchid >> >> >> flower? >> >> >> >> > Madhuri >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > --- On Sat, 17/9/11, raju >> das <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > From: raju das <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > Subject: >> [efloraofindia:82104] Re: >> >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE: >> >> >> >> Curcuma euchroma Valeton >> >> >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >> >> >> > Cc: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > Date: Saturday, 17 >> September, 2011, >> >> 8:51 PM >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Dear Sir, >> >> >> >> > Thanks for showing such >> >> a beautiful Curcuma >> >> >> from >> >> >> >> Hong Kong. I have attached my >> >> photographs >> >> >> .......from >> >> >> >> Indo-Bhutan border area. I need >> your >> >> help >> >> >> to validate the >> >> >> >> ID >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Regards, >> >> >> >> > Raju Das >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at >> 8:41 PM, >> >> raju <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded >> message >> >> ---------- >> >> >> >> > From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > Date: Sep 17, 5:54 pm >> >> >> >> > Subject: ZINGIBERACEAE: >> Curcuma >> >> euchroma >> >> >> Valeton >> >> >> >> > To: efloraofindia >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Curcuma euchroma Valeton, >> Bull. >> >> Jard. Bot. >> >> >> Buitenzorg, >> >> >> >> II, 27: 42 >> >> >> >> > (1918). >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Synonyms: >> >> >> >> > Amomum zerumbet J.König >> in >> >> A.J.Retzius, >> >> >> Observ. Bot. >> >> >> >> 3: 55 (1783), >> >> >> >> > nom. illeg. >> >> >> >> > Erndlia subpersonata >> Giseke, Prael. >> >> Ord. Nat. >> >> >> Pl.: 252 >> >> >> >> (1792). >> >> >> >> > Curcuma zerumbet Roxb., >> Asiat. Res. >> >> 11: 332 >> >> >> (1810). >> >> >> >> > Curcuma officinalis >> Salisb., Trans. >> >> Hort. >> >> >> Soc. London >> >> >> >> 1: 285 (1812). >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Family: ZINGIBERACEAE >> >> >> >> > Distribution: Jawa >> >> >> >> > Current Location: KFBG, Tai >> Po, New >> >> >> Territories, Hong >> >> >> >> Kong (from >> >> >> >> > gardens) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Regards >> >> >> >> > Pankaj >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> *********************************************** >> >> >> >> > "Taxonomists getting >> Extinct and >> >> Species >> >> >> Data >> >> >> >> Deficient !!" >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. >> (Orchidaceae) >> >> >> >> > Conservation Officer >> >> >> >> > Flora Conservation >> Department >> >> >> >> > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic >> Garden >> >> (KFBG) >> >> >> Corporation >> >> >> >> > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New >> >> Territories, Hong >> >> >> Kong >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > email: [email protected] >> >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> >> > Phone: +852 2483 7128 >> (office - >> >> 8:30am to >> >> >> 5:30pm) >> >> >> >> > +852 5431 >> 6094 >> >> (mobile) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Slide47.JPG >> >> >> >> > 221KViewDownload >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Slide48.JPG >> >> >> >> > 144KViewDownload >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Slide49.JPG >> >> >> >> > 277KViewDownload >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Slide50.JPG >> >> >> >> > 398KViewDownload >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > Raju Das >> >> >> >> > Nature's Foster >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> *********************************************** >> >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species >> Data >> >> Deficient >> >> >> !!" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> >> Conservation Officer >> >> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) >> >> Corporation >> >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, >> Hong Kong >> >> >> >> >> >> email: [email protected] >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to >> 5:30pm) >> >> >> +852 5431 6094; +852 >> 9436 6251 >> >> (mobile) >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *********************************************** >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data >> Deficient >> >> !!" >> >> >> >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> Conservation Officer >> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) >> Corporation >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong >> >> >> >> email: [email protected] >> >> [email protected] >> >> [email protected] >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 >> (mobile) >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> *********************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient >> !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Conservation Officer >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong >> >> email: [email protected] >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> > -- *********************************************** "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong email: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 (mobile)
