Zingiber zerumbet (L.) Roscoe ex Sm., Exot. Bot. 2: 105 (1806). Synonyms: Amomum zerumbet L., Sp. Pl.: 1 (1753). Zingiber sylvestre Garsault, Fig. Pl. Méd.: t. 34b (1764), opus utique oppr. Amomum sylvestre Lam., Encycl. 1: 134 (1783), nom. superfl. Zerumbet zingiber T.Lestib., Ann. Sci. Nat., Bot., II, 15: 329 (1841).
I am extremely sorry. I got confused. This plant is Zingiber zerumbet distributed in Tropical and Subtropical Asia. Regards Pankaj On Sep 18, 5:34 pm, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Orchids and Orchidilogists are full of surprises. > But I think this will stay. > Best wishes. > Pankaj > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum! > > Families with examples i knew. but not the merger. S o when we go for > > these families will get further surprises. > > ok Thanks for patience to answer me > > Madhuri > > > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma > >> Valeton > >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> > >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:58 PM > >> Actually it is more close to > >> Asparagaceae according to recent > >> findings. I hope you know that Liliaceae is now in another > >> group > >> Liliales and Amaryllidaceae in Asparagales. > >> Its complicated but in simple words, Orchidaceae is more > >> close to > >> Asparagaceae and Amaryllidaceae and Zingiberaceae is more > >> close to > >> Commelinaceae. and both are in two different groups > >> (scientifically > >> speaking Orders). > >> Pankaj > > >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Ok. thanks. > >> > In the series of evolution are Orchid near any where > >> of Curcuma? > >> > I dont know being non botanist. But appearence is very > >> close. > >> > Madhuri > > >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: > >> ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma Valeton > >> >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> > >> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:39 PM > >> >> Check this illustration. It will help > >> >> you in making plates. > >> >> Pankaj > > >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Madhuri Pejaver > >> <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > ok. will disect the flower of curcuma next > >> time. > >> >> > Thanks > >> >> > Madhuri > > >> >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> >> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: > >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma Valeton > >> >> >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> > >> >> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > >> >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:14 > >> PM > >> >> >> Yes Curcuma does look like a bit of > >> >> >> Orchid because of the rostellum > >> >> >> like structure. But there is no pollinia > >> in > >> >> Curcuma, there > >> >> >> are proper > >> >> >> anthers. > >> >> >> Pankaj > > >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Madhuri > >> Pejaver > >> >> <[email protected]> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > Great' But still one more q > >> remained > >> >> unanswered. Dont > >> >> >> the flowers look more like Orchid > >> flowers? > >> >> >> > Madhuri > > >> >> >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Dr Pankaj > >> Kumar <[email protected]> > >> >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> From: Dr Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:82122] > >> Re: > >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE: > >> >> >> Curcuma euchroma Valeton > >> >> >> >> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, > >> 2011, 6:39 > >> >> AM > >> >> >> >> The inflorescence is green when > >> young > >> >> >> >> and then turns to red > >> gradually. > >> >> >> >> If you press the round thing, it > >> oozes > >> >> out the > >> >> >> fragrant > >> >> >> >> nectar and > >> >> >> >> water. > >> >> >> >> Pankaj > > >> >> >> >> On Sep 18, 3:16 am, Madhuri > >> Pejaver > >> >> <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > I remembered the nest of > >> harvester > >> >> ants. Very > >> >> >> nice. > >> >> >> >> > My questions > >> >> >> >> > Does the infloresence > >> appear green > >> >> when young > >> >> >> and red > >> >> >> >> when old? > >> >> >> >> > Dont the flowers give > >> appearence of > >> >> orchid > >> >> >> flower? > >> >> >> >> > Madhuri > > >> >> >> >> > --- On Sat, 17/9/11, raju > >> das <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> > From: raju das <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> > Subject: > >> [efloraofindia:82104] Re: > >> >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE: > >> >> >> >> Curcuma euchroma Valeton > >> >> >> >> > To: [email protected] > >> >> >> >> > Cc: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> > Date: Saturday, 17 > >> September, 2011, > >> >> 8:51 PM > > >> >> >> >> > Dear Sir, > >> >> >> >> > Thanks for showing such > >> >> a beautiful Curcuma > >> >> >> from > >> >> >> >> Hong Kong. I have attached my > >> >> photographs > >> >> >> .......from > >> >> >> >> Indo-Bhutan border area. I need > >> your > >> >> help > >> >> >> to validate the > >> >> >> >> ID > > >> >> >> >> > Regards, > >> >> >> >> > Raju Das > > >> >> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at > >> 8:41 PM, > >> >> raju <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded > >> message > >> >> ---------- > >> >> >> >> > From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> > Date: Sep 17, 5:54 pm > >> >> >> >> > Subject: ZINGIBERACEAE: > >> Curcuma > >> >> euchroma > >> >> >> Valeton > >> >> >> >> > To: efloraofindia > > >> >> >> >> > Curcuma euchroma Valeton, > >> Bull. > >> >> Jard. Bot. > >> >> >> Buitenzorg, > >> >> >> >> II, 27: 42 > >> >> >> >> > (1918). > > >> >> >> >> > Synonyms: > >> >> >> >> > AmomumzerumbetJ.König > >> in > >> >> A.J.Retzius, > >> >> >> Observ. Bot. > >> >> >> >> 3: 55 (1783), > >> >> >> >> > nom. illeg. > >> >> >> >> > Erndlia subpersonata > >> Giseke, Prael. > >> >> Ord. Nat. > >> >> >> Pl.: 252 > >> >> >> >> (1792). > >> >> >> >> > CurcumazerumbetRoxb., > >> Asiat. Res. > >> >> 11: 332 > >> >> >> (1810). > >> >> >> >> > Curcuma officinalis > >> Salisb., Trans. > >> >> Hort. > >> >> >> Soc. London > >> >> >> >> 1: 285 (1812). > > >> >> >> >> > Family: ZINGIBERACEAE > >> >> >> >> > Distribution: Jawa > >> >> >> >> > Current Location: KFBG, Tai > >> Po, New > >> >> >> Territories, Hong > >> >> >> >> Kong (from > >> >> >> >> > gardens) > > >> >> >> >> > Regards > >> >> >> >> > Pankaj > >> >> >> >> > -- > > >> *********************************************** > >> >> >> >> > "Taxonomists getting > >> Extinct and > >> >> Species > >> >> >> Data > >> >> >> >> Deficient !!" > > >> >> >> >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. > >> (Orchidaceae) > >> >> >> >> > Conservation Officer > >> >> >> >> > Flora Conservation > >> Department > >> >> >> >> > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic > >> Garden > >> >> (KFBG) > >> >> >> Corporation > >> >> >> >> > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New > >> >> Territories, Hong > >> >> >> Kong > > >> >> >> >> > email: [email protected] > >> >> >> >> > [email protected] > >> >> >> >> > [email protected] > >> >> >> >> > Phone: +852 2483 7128 > >> (office - > >> >> 8:30am to > >> >> >> 5:30pm) > >> >> >> >> > +852 5431 > >> 6094 > >> >> (mobile) > > >> >> >> >> > Slide47.JPG > >> >> >> >> > 221KViewDownload > > >> >> >> >> > Slide48.JPG > >> >> >> >> > 144KViewDownload > > >> >> >> >> > Slide49.JPG > >> >> >> >> > 277KViewDownload > > >> >> >> >> > Slide50.JPG > >> >> >> >> > 398KViewDownload > > >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> > Raju Das > >> >> >> >> > Nature's Foster > > >> >> >> -- > > >> *********************************************** > >> >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species > >> Data > >> >> Deficient > >> >> >> !!" > > >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> >> >> Conservation Officer > >> >> >> Flora Conservation Department > >> >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) > >> >> Corporation > >> >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, > >> Hong Kong > > >> >> >> email: [email protected] > >> >> >> [email protected] > >> >> >> [email protected] > >> >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to > >> 5:30pm) > >> >> >> +852 5431 6094; +852 > >> 9436 6251 > >> >> (mobile) > > >> >> -- > >> >> *********************************************** > >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data > >> Deficient > >> >> !!" > > >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> >> Conservation Officer > >> >> Flora Conservation Department > >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) > >> Corporation > >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong > > >> >> email: [email protected] > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> >> +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 > >> (mobile) > > >> -- > >> *********************************************** > >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient > >> !!" > > >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> Conservation Officer > >> Flora Conservation Department > >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong > > >> email: [email protected] > >> [email protected] > >> [email protected] > >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > > -- > *********************************************** > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > Conservation Officer > Flora Conservation Department > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong > > email: [email protected] > [email protected] > [email protected] > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251 (mobile)
