On Sep 20, 8:58 am, Dr Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Zingiber zerumbet (L.) Roscoe ex Sm., Exot. Bot. 2: 105 (1806).
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> Synonyms:
> Amomum zerumbet L., Sp. Pl.: 1 (1753).
> Zingiber sylvestre Garsault, Fig. Pl. Méd.: t. 34b (1764), opus utique
> oppr.
> Amomum sylvestre Lam., Encycl. 1: 134 (1783), nom. superfl.
> Zerumbet zingiber T.Lestib., Ann. Sci. Nat., Bot., II, 15: 329 (1841).
>
> I am extremely sorry. I got confused. This plant is Zingiber zerumbet
> distributed in Tropical and Subtropical Asia.
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
> On Sep 18, 5:34 pm, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Orchids and Orchidilogists are full of surprises.
> > But I think this will stay.
> > Best wishes.
> > Pankaj
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> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum!
> > > Families with examples i knew. but not the merger. S o when we go for
> > > these families will get further surprises.
> > > ok Thanks for patience to answer me
> > > Madhuri
>
> > > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
> > >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re: ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma
> > >> Valeton
> > >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]>
> > >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
> > >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:58 PM
> > >> Actually it is more close to
> > >> Asparagaceae according to recent
> > >> findings. I hope you know that Liliaceae is now in another
> > >> group
> > >> Liliales and Amaryllidaceae in Asparagales.
> > >> Its complicated but in simple words, Orchidaceae is more
> > >> close to
> > >> Asparagaceae and Amaryllidaceae and Zingiberaceae is more
> > >> close to
> > >> Commelinaceae. and both are in two different groups
> > >> (scientifically
> > >> speaking Orders).
> > >> Pankaj
>
> > >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Ok. thanks.
> > >> > In the series of evolution are Orchid near any where
> > >> of Curcuma?
> > >> > I dont know being non botanist. But appearence is very
> > >> close.
> > >> > Madhuri
>
> > >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
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> > >> >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re:
> > >> ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma Valeton
> > >> >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]>
> > >> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
> > >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:39 PM
> > >> >> Check this illustration. It will help
> > >> >> you in making plates.
> > >> >> Pankaj
>
> > >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Madhuri Pejaver
> > >> <[email protected]>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> > ok. will disect the flower of curcuma next
> > >> time.
> > >> >> > Thanks
> > >> >> > Madhuri
>
> > >> >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
> > >> >> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82122] Re:
> > >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE: Curcuma euchroma Valeton
> > >> >> >> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 2:14
> > >> PM
> > >> >> >> Yes Curcuma does look like a bit of
> > >> >> >> Orchid because of the rostellum
> > >> >> >> like structure. But there is no pollinia
> > >> in
> > >> >> Curcuma, there
> > >> >> >> are proper
> > >> >> >> anthers.
> > >> >> >> Pankaj
>
> > >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Madhuri
> > >> Pejaver
> > >> >> <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > Great' But still one more q
> > >> remained
> > >> >> unanswered. Dont
> > >> >> >> the flowers look more like Orchid
> > >> flowers?
> > >> >> >> > Madhuri
>
> > >> >> >> > --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Dr Pankaj
> > >> Kumar <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> From: Dr Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:82122]
> > >> Re:
> > >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE:
> > >> >> >> Curcuma euchroma Valeton
> > >> >> >> >> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> >> Date: Sunday, 18 September,
> > >> 2011, 6:39
> > >> >> AM
> > >> >> >> >> The inflorescence is green when
> > >> young
> > >> >> >> >> and then turns to red
> > >> gradually.
> > >> >> >> >> If you press the round thing, it
> > >> oozes
> > >> >> out the
> > >> >> >> fragrant
> > >> >> >> >> nectar and
> > >> >> >> >> water.
> > >> >> >> >> Pankaj
>
> > >> >> >> >> On Sep 18, 3:16 am, Madhuri
> > >> Pejaver
> > >> >> <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> > I remembered the nest of
> > >> harvester
> > >> >> ants. Very
> > >> >> >> nice.
> > >> >> >> >> > My questions
> > >> >> >> >> > Does the infloresence
> > >> appear green
> > >> >> when young
> > >> >> >> and red
> > >> >> >> >> when old?
> > >> >> >> >> > Dont the flowers give
> > >> appearence of
> > >> >> orchid
> > >> >> >> flower?
> > >> >> >> >> > Madhuri
>
> > >> >> >> >> > --- On Sat, 17/9/11, raju
> > >> das <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> > From: raju das <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> >> > Subject:
> > >> [efloraofindia:82104] Re:
> > >> >> >> ZINGIBERACEAE:
> > >> >> >> >> Curcuma euchroma Valeton
> > >> >> >> >> > To: [email protected]
> > >> >> >> >> > Cc: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> >> > Date: Saturday, 17
> > >> September, 2011,
> > >> >> 8:51 PM
>
> > >> >> >> >> > Dear Sir,
> > >> >> >> >> > Thanks for showing such
> > >> >> a beautiful Curcuma
> > >> >> >> from
> > >> >> >> >> Hong Kong. I have attached my
> > >> >> photographs
> > >> >> >> .......from
> > >> >> >> >> Indo-Bhutan border area. I need
> > >> your
> > >> >> help
> > >> >> >> to validate the
> > >> >> >> >> ID
>
> > >> >> >> >> > Regards,
> > >> >> >> >> > Raju Das
>
> > >> >> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at
> > >> 8:41 PM,
> > >> >> raju <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded
> > >> message
> > >> >> ----------
> > >> >> >> >> > From: Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> >> > Date: Sep 17, 5:54 pm
> > >> >> >> >> > Subject: ZINGIBERACEAE:
> > >> Curcuma
> > >> >> euchroma
> > >> >> >> Valeton
> > >> >> >> >> > To: efloraofindia
>
> > >> >> >> >> > Curcuma euchroma Valeton,
> > >> Bull.
> > >> >> Jard. Bot.
> > >> >> >> Buitenzorg,
> > >> >> >> >> II, 27: 42
> > >> >> >> >> > (1918).
>
> > >> >> >> >> > Synonyms:
> > >> >> >> >> > AmomumzerumbetJ.König
> > >> in
> > >> >> A.J.Retzius,
> > >> >> >> Observ. Bot.
> > >> >> >> >> 3: 55 (1783),
> > >> >> >> >> > nom. illeg.
> > >> >> >> >> > Erndlia subpersonata
> > >> Giseke, Prael.
> > >> >> Ord. Nat.
> > >> >> >> Pl.: 252
> > >> >> >> >> (1792).
> > >> >> >> >> > CurcumazerumbetRoxb.,
> > >> Asiat. Res.
> > >> >> 11: 332
> > >> >> >> (1810).
> > >> >> >> >> > Curcuma officinalis
> > >> Salisb., Trans.
> > >> >> Hort.
> > >> >> >> Soc. London
> > >> >> >> >> 1: 285 (1812).
>
> > >> >> >> >> > Family: ZINGIBERACEAE
> > >> >> >> >> > Distribution: Jawa
> > >> >> >> >> > Current Location: KFBG, Tai
> > >> Po, New
> > >> >> >> Territories, Hong
> > >> >> >> >> Kong (from
> > >> >> >> >> > gardens)
>
> > >> >> >> >> > Regards
> > >> >> >> >> > Pankaj
> > >> >> >> >> > --
>
> > >> ***********************************************
> > >> >> >> >> > "Taxonomists getting
> > >> Extinct and
> > >> >> Species
> > >> >> >> Data
> > >> >> >> >> Deficient !!"
>
> > >> >> >> >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D.
> > >> (Orchidaceae)
> > >> >> >> >> > Conservation Officer
> > >> >> >> >> > Flora Conservation
> > >> Department
> > >> >> >> >> > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic
> > >> Garden
> > >> >> (KFBG)
> > >> >> >> Corporation
> > >> >> >> >> > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New
> > >> >> Territories, Hong
> > >> >> >> Kong
>
> > >> >> >> >> > email: [email protected]
> > >> >> >> >> > [email protected]
> > >> >> >> >> > [email protected]
> > >> >> >> >> > Phone: +852 2483 7128
> > >> (office -
> > >> >> 8:30am to
> > >> >> >> 5:30pm)
> > >> >> >> >> > +852 5431
> > >> 6094
> > >> >> (mobile)
>
> > >> >> >> >> > Slide47.JPG
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> > >> >> >> >> > --
> > >> >> >> >> > Raju Das
> > >> >> >> >> > Nature's Foster
>
> > >> >> >> --
>
> > >> ***********************************************
> > >> >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species
> > >> Data
> > >> >> Deficient
> > >> >> >> !!"
>
> > >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
> > >> >> >> Conservation Officer
> > >> >> >> Flora Conservation Department
> > >> >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG)
> > >> >> Corporation
> > >> >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories,
> > >> Hong Kong
>
> > >> >> >> email: [email protected]
> > >> >> >> [email protected]
> > >> >> >> [email protected]
> > >> >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to
> > >> 5:30pm)
> > >> >> >> +852 5431 6094; +852
> > >> 9436 6251
> > >> >> (mobile)
>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> ***********************************************
> > >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data
> > >> Deficient
> > >> >> !!"
>
> > >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
> > >> >> Conservation Officer
> > >> >> Flora Conservation Department
> > >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG)
> > >> Corporation
> > >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong
>
> > >> >> email: [email protected]
> > >> >> [email protected]
> > >> >> [email protected]
> > >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm)
> > >> >> +852 5431 6094; +852 9436 6251
> > >> (mobile)
>
> > >> --
> > >> ***********************************************
> > >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient
> > >> !!"
>
> > >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
> > >> Conservation Officer
> > >> Flora
>
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