Dear Neil: Thanks for adding MITES and Gallic acid... I had forgotten about Gallic acid... that's the Gallic acid of pyrogallol etc, I guess.
I found your earlier gall picture (one of many) at this url: http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/6f7e53763e32eba7/Galls+on+Wild+fig+%2C+Umber+%5BFicus+racemosa+%2C+Ficus+glomerata%5D+leaves.jpg?part=5&view=1 spectacular picture..... But I dont see any pictures from you in this thread, did add some new pictures? Thanks,. Usha di ====== On Sep 22, 10:37 pm, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Neilji > Regards > Bhagyashri > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Neil Soares <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > Galls are produced not only by insects [Thrips,Waspa & Flies] but even by > > Mites. Gallic acid produced by the above induces 'cancerous' growths on the > > plant within which they live and feed. > > My photographs of galls on the leaves of Umber are in this thread and my > > previous photographs are also in the archives of this group. > > With regards, > > Neil Soares. > > > --- On *Thu, 9/22/11, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82913] Re: efloraofindia:''For Id 20092011MR1’’ > > ?Audumbar tree Pune > > To: "Ushadi micromini" <microminipho...@gmail.com> > > Cc: "efloraofindia" <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> > > Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 9:51 PM > > > @Ushadi Thank you for the info. I cut this galls in my house not knowing > > what they are. So far I am surviving ha ha. > > Some interesting info. When I asked the local gardner he said they eat this > > if someone has aphthous ulcers or glossitis. Shocking isnt it? > > > Regards > > Bhagyashri > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Ushadi micromini < > > microminipho...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=microminipho...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > ps.. often a gall is enlarged cell/s of the leaf itself in reaction to > > injury often by insect bites, larvae or eggs attachments... I have > > seen slimy stuff around or inside some very large galls on leaves... I > > personally would not dissect on one inside the house or near my > > healthy plants.. > > not knowing plant pathology too well, I would stay away from opening > > them inside the house or near my cherished plants... > > > Gurcharanji... are there any textbooks accounts on Galls on leaves... > > or pdf file? > > Thanks Ushadi > > > ===== > > > On Sep 22, 4:50 pm, Madhuri Raut > > <itii...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itii...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > I hope this is not infestation by insects? > > > Regards > > > Bhagyashri > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Madhuri Raut > > > <itii...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itii...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > There is another small Audumbar tree in my vicinity. This is what I > > found > > > > on its leaves. They also looked like the fruits but how can it be on > > the > > > > leaves. Yet I cut open them open and there was an empty cavity. Please > > > > identify. > > > > Regards > > > > Bhagyashri > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Madhuri Raut > > > > <itii...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itii...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > >> Thank you Gurcharanji. Having read about this type of inflorescence I > > now > > > >> understand that figs and wasps are a clear example of coevolution< > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coevolution>. . > > > >> very interesting. > > > >> Regards > > > >> Bhagyashri > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh > > > >> <singh...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=singh...@gmail.com> > > >wrote: > > > > >>> Madhuri ji > > > >>> So called unripe fruit of yours is an inflorescence containing > > flowers > > > >>> and known as hypanthodium. When ovary ripens and the colour changes, > > it > > > >>> turns into syconus fruit. > > > > >>> -- > > > >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > > >>> Retired Associate Professor > > > >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > > >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > > >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > > >>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Madhuri Raut > > > >>> <itii...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itii...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > >>>> Attaching pics of cut unripe fruit. but I cannot follow the flower > > > >>>> identification. > > > >>>> Regards > > > >>>> Bhagyashri > > > > >>>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Madhuri Raut > > > >>>> <itii...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itii...@gmail.com> > > >wrote: > > > > >>>>> @Gibyji > > > >>>>> Ok I will try it. Thank You for your guidance. > > > >>>>> Regards > > > >>>>> Bhagyashri > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Giby Kuriakose < > > > >>>>> giby.kuriak...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=giby.kuriak...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > >>>>>> If you want to see the flowers of *Ficus* you have to split open > > the > > > >>>>>> figs at its early-mid stages (mostly before it turns its color). > > > >>>>>> In bisexual figs the male flowers would be arranged very close to > > the > > > >>>>>> ostiole (small opening at the opposite end of the stalk) and the > > female > > > >>>>>> flowers are seen at the base towards the stalk. > > > >>>>>> In some cases you may see only male or female flower in one fig or > > > >>>>>> figs of an individual (eg. *Ficus tictoria*). > > > > >>>>>> Regards > > > >>>>>> Giby > > > > >>>>>> On 20 September 2011 19:16, Madhuri Raut > > > >>>>>> <itii...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itii...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> Thank you Gibyji and Neilji. I have seen a lot of these fruits on > > the > > > >>>>>>> tree. It is opposite my house but what I want to see are its > > flowers . I > > > >>>>>>> learn that they are within the fruit but the flower should bloom > > before the > > > >>>>>>> fruit so why do we not get to see it. Has anyone ? > > > >>>>>>> Regards > > > >>>>>>> Bhagyashri > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Neil Soares < > > drneilsoa...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> > > > >>>>>>> > wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi, > > > >>>>>>>> This looks like Umber [ Ficus racemosa syn .Ficus glomerata]. > > The > > > >>>>>>>> fig is a syconus with the flowers turned outside in. Please read > > Pradip > > > >>>>>>>> Kishen's 'Trees of Delhi' pages 321 - 323 to get a proper > > perspective on the > > > >>>>>>>> nature of the flowers and pollination process. > > > >>>>>>>> My photographs are available at this link : > > >https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/25... > > > > >>>>>>>> With regards, > > > >>>>>>>> Neil Soares. > > > > >>>>>>>> --- On *Tue, 9/20/11, Madhuri Raut > > > >>>>>>>> <itii...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itii...@gmail.com>>* > > wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> From: Madhuri Raut > > > >>>>>>>> <itii...@gmail.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itii...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:82381] efloraofindia:''For Id > > 20092011MR1’’ > > > >>>>>>>> ?Audumbar tree Pune > > > >>>>>>>> To: "efloraofindia" > > > >>>>>>>> <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegrou...> > > > > >>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:20 AM > > > > >>>>>>>> Dear members, > > > >>>>>>>> Is this Audumbar tree with umbars? > > > > >>>>>>>> Has anyone seen the flower of this tree . I learn that the > > flower is > > > >>>>>>>> within the fruit. > > > >>>>>>>> Would like to see the pic if possible. > > > > >>>>>>>> My gardner told me some story that it is very rare to see the > > > >>>>>>>> flower of this tree. Only blessed people get to se it . It is a > > huge flower > > > >>>>>>>> as big as a cart wheel and very pretty? What is this he is > > talking about or > > > >>>>>>>> just a myth. > > > > >>>>>>>> Also there is some gum like white thing on the bark. Is it gum? > > > > >>>>>>>> Regards > > > >>>>>>>> Bhagyashri > > > > >>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD > > > >>>>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), > > > >>>>>> Royal Enclave, > > > >>>>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura > > > >>>>>> Bangalore- 560064 > > > >>>>>> India > > > >>>>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) > > > >>>>>> visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
