Tabish ji The flower size created doubt in my mind also, but the fruit in Balkar ji's photographs led me to think about A. eupatoria. In A. pilosa the spines on fruit are erect when young, connivent when old. In A. eupatoria they are spreading, outermost recurved
http://efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=100836 The fruit in Alok ji's photograph very much resemles that of Balkar ji, Most plants of Kalatope are covered in Flora Simlensis, which does not describe A. pilosa. https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=0e7cd71b6a&view=att&th=132b096e896130d0&attid=0.2&disp=inline&zw The two species are very close. It would be best to wait till my next visit to Kashmir in 2012, where I may be able to find and photograph A. aupatoria, because A. pilosa does not grow in Kashmir. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Gurcharan ji, > I think this plant is Agrimoni pilosa, for the following reasons. > 1. The size of the Agrimonia pilosa flower is supposed to be > approximately 5-9 mm. From the Balkar ji's image Agrimonia-eupatoria > (5), I estimate the size of the flower to be around that. I assume > that an average thumb is 2 cm across and an average index finger is > 1.5 cm across. > 2. According to Polunin & Stainton, A. pilosa is distinguished by its > top-shaped fruit with numerous hooked spines. Balkar ji's fruit > pictures seem to agree with this description. > Moreover, I doubt that A. eupatoria subsp. asiatica is distributed in > this region. > Will wait for your feedback, > Best wishes > - Tabish > ------------------------------------------- > http://www.flowersofindia.in > The waterhole of flower lovers > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Agrimonia eupatoria Linnaeus subsp. asiatica (Juzepczuk) Skalický, Feddes > > Repert. 79: 35. 1968. > > Perennial herb with horizontal rhizome, glandular hairy; > > leaves uninterruptedly imparipinnate with 3-5 leaflets, margin crenate; > > flowers 11-13 mm across in spike-like terminal racemes, yellow; fruit > 8-10 > > mm across with spreading prickles, outer most prickles recurved. > > European and American var. eupatoria is distinct in erect rootstock, > being > > less hairy and less deeply grooved calyx > > Another Himalayan species A. pilosa is distinct in smaller flowers (7-9 > mm > > across), fruit 7-8 mm with rickles initially erect later becoming > connivent. > > Photographed > > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > Retired Associate Professor > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > > > > > -- >

