Dear Neil and Gurcharanji: 1: thank you for the two book names. 2: Thanks for adding the info... esp about the pedicel/pedical of Hibiscus... that's why the flower breaks off so easily the day after blooming and often falls off on its own leaving behind a segment of the stalk.. next time it happens I'll look at it with a little more knowing eyes. Usha di =============
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Neil ji > No two opinions. We all have graduated reading A. C. Dutta > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Neil Soares <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi, >> My apologies. Prof. Singh would be the right person to suggest this - >> possibly one of the many books authoured by him. >> The book I have suggeste is available in Bombay. Another book [with >> difficulty] is 'A Textbook of Systemic Botany' by Prof. R.N.Sutaria. >> With regards, >> Neil Soares. >> >> --- On *Sat, 10/22/11, Neil Soares <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Neil Soares <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:89018] Re: abutilon indicum >> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>, "Ushadi micromini" >> <[email protected]> >> Date: Saturday, October 22, 2011, 9:36 AM >> >> >> Hi, >> Would suggest you buy a basic textbook of Botany used in colleges. >> A.C.Dutta's 'A Class Book of Botany' would do for starters. >> With regards, >> Neil Soares. >> >> --- On *Sat, 10/22/11, Ushadi micromini <[email protected]>*wrote: >> >> >> From: Ushadi micromini <[email protected]> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:89006] Re: abutilon indicum >> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >> Date: Saturday, October 22, 2011, 9:00 AM >> >> FOR NON BOTANISTS: >> INCLUDING MYSELF: >> >> Peduncle has different meaning(s) in medicine... >> so had to do some reading: >> >> the nuances are different in Botany: >> this is what I learnt today: RE-LEARNT: since after 1962/3... ha ha.. >> A Pedicle, Pedicel, and Peduncle are the same thing : A stalk... >> and leaf stalk is different named.... >> >> A pedicle is what we use mostly in medicine: stalk or a long base of >> a tumor, benign or malignant.... >> >> >> A leaf stalk is called : A petiole >> >> A stalk of a flower cluster is called: Peduncle >> A stalk of a single flower (when it grows independently, not part of a >> cluster) is called : Peduncle >> >> A stalk of an individual flower in a cluster or an inflorescence is >> called : Pedicel >> A stalk of a moss capsule is also called: Pedicel: >> >> Source: based this on a few dictionaries ... >> >> An extensively illustrated Taxonomic dictionary for botany would be >> very handy... >> don't have one in my library.. could you please suggest one? >> thanks for the lesson.... Everybody.... >> usha di >> ====== >> >> >> >> On Oct 21, 9:47 pm, Gurcharan Singh >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> > To me leaf shape, colour, and very short pedicel of second photograph >> can't >> > be ignored. The other two have slender long pedicel of S. cordata. >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > Retired Associate Professor >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Vijayasankar >> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > To me all three pictures look like Sida cordata, as suggested by Neil >> ji. >> > > Pl see this link for S. cordifolia >> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sida_cordifolia_%28Bala%29_in_Hyder >> ... >> > >> > > Regards >> > >> > > Vijayasankar Raman >> > > National Center for Natural Products Research >> > > University of Mississippi >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Gurcharan Singh >> > > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >wrote: >> > >> > >> The first photograph (*DSCN0755a.jpg) *and photograph uploaded >> > >> subsequently (*DSCN0757a.jpg) *belong to Sida cordata (syn: S. >> > >> veronicifolia) >> > >> > >> Second photograph (*DSCN0769aa.jpg) Sida cordifolia* >> > >> * >> > >> * >> > >> * >> > >> * >> > >> -- >> > >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > >> Retired Associate Professor >> > >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >> [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> > >>> Erect herb, leaves cordate and hairy (stem too), *pedicel is shorter >> > >>> than peduncle*: *Sida cordifolia* >> > >> > >>> Trailing herb, leaves faintly hairy or even sometimes glabrous >> *pedicel >> > >>> is as long as or longer than peduncle*: *Sida cordata* >> > >> > >>> My guess, based on the pedicel length, is that this plant is *S. >> > >>> cordifolia *of Malvaceae family >> > >> > >>> Regards, >> > >>> Giby >> > >> > >>> On 21 October 2011 18:55, Neil Soares >> > >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> > >> > >>>> Hi Mohina, >> > >>>> Just checked your photographs. This is also Sida cordata. >> > >>>> Regards, >> > >>>> Neil. >> > >> > >>>> --- On *Fri, 10/21/11, Mohina Macker >> > >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>* >> wrote: >> > >> > >>>> From: Mohina Macker >> > >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> > >>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:88911] abutilon indicum >> > >>>> To: "hari lal" >> > >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> > >>>> Cc: "Gurcharan Singh" >> > >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>, >> "H S" >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >, >> > >>>> "efloraofindia" >> > >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> > >>>> Date: Friday, October 21, 2011, 5:31 PM >> > >> > >>>> many many thanks for all the identifications >> > >>>> ireally appreciate all the time that goes in >> > >>>> i have added another photograph of the same plant as 755 >> > >>>> maybe it will help >> > >>>> regards >> > >>>> mohina >> > >> > >>> -- >> > >>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >> > >>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >> > >>> Royal Enclave, >> > >>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >> > >>> Bangalore- 560064 >> > >>> India >> > >>> Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) >> > >>> visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >> >> > > >
