Thats sad. So any update on what actually the animal was? Dinosaur is most unlikely.... Pankaj
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:29 PM, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> wrote: > Pankaj: very nice exacting Nature letter... > > jurassic park of Orchids.. > lets make up a fantasy story... > of little mermaid orchids... like these above in your pictures... flying out > of the amber as soon as they were cut open... > > Did you read about this unlucky fellow that was discovered in India, that > looks like a dinosaur? > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata-/Unidentified-animal-chopped-to-death/articleshow/10458944.cms > Jurassic park all over... > Secondly... there is so much that remains unexplored, unexplained in India > and soooo much that needs to be removed from western /eurocentric > thinking... and to be brought into global, truly academic collegial > thinking.... > > usha di > > ========= > > > > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Respected Mam >> I have a very good friend, Dr. Santosh Kumar Shah, at Birbal Sahani >> Institute of Paleobotany, Lucknow. He and his superior are good at >> isolating pollen from deep earth and snow etc. >> >> Oh I thought I can tell you another story then. >> You know how the age of orchids was determined. >> >> In Dominic Republic, during an excavating work in a mine, they found >> this amber. Inside the amber they found one extinct insect called >> Proplebeia dominicana. And on the back of the insect was an orchid >> pollinia. On the basis of this pollinia they named a new genus and as >> well as species, Meliorchis caribea. >> This article was published in Nature. >> Please find the same attached with the mail. >> Regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:20 PM, ushadi Micromini >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Pankaj: >> > we used to get rose honey from konkan when i was a child...in india >> > >> > in usa grocery stores sell clover honey, orange flower honey, mesquite >> > honey, rosemary honey... as available locally... and many others that i >> > dont/didnt buy because i am allergic to the pollen there in... >> > >> > AND WHAT A CO-INCIDENCE...only yesterday I was reviewing a technique for >> > isolating old... very old Pollen grains from rocks for Paleo- >> > palnology... >> > pollens stuck in mud that turned to stone and rocks over the eons... >> > its >> > just an armchair research because in Kolkata we dont even have a good >> > organized effort to count or type the pollen in this highly polluted air >> > that we breath... all respiratory ailments and conjunctivitis are >> > chalked up >> > by doctors/health department officials to virus !!!! not to air >> > pollutants, particles and pollen... ( not discounting virus, but they >> > are >> > not the culprits in 100% of the cases). >> > >> > usha di >> > ====== >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> There is a very lesser known branch of botany called, >> >> Melissopalynology. It is basically the study of pollen in honey. >> >> Not much people are interested in it now a days but it has a very wise >> >> and wide implication. It can be assumed that pollen of the plant will >> >> contain medicinal properties, so if you place a box for of beehive or >> >> better say if you rear bee in a citrus farm then the honey will >> >> contain some medicinal properties of the same.... >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Madhuri Raut <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Interesting Pankaj ji.I wish someday I get to see a live video of >> >> > these >> >> > lovely Bees working and collecting these things. I love bees and also >> >> > the >> >> > buzz >> >> > Regards >> >> > Bhagyashri >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Pankaj Kumar >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I didnt read the article yet so I have no idea what is it about. >> >> >> Just wanted to tell you that Bees dont just collect nectar. It >> >> >> collects, waxs and resins with the help of which it makes hive. >> >> >> There are many orchids which have proper wax and resin secretions on >> >> >> the labellum and then there are few orchids which have wax and resin >> >> >> deceit. Deceit in the sense, it looks like resins but its not >> >> >> actually >> >> >> resin. >> >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Madhuri Raut <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Thank you Giby ji for this interesting paper on Pollination. >> >> >> > I learn the busy bee carries out the work of Pollination and the >> >> >> > butterfly >> >> >> > just wants the nectar!!. The three phases are so well described >> >> >> > Also it was interestiing to know that Adulsa is in use for the >> >> >> > last >> >> >> > 2000 >> >> >> > years >> >> >> > I will see if I can get to see some fruits on the plant. Let us >> >> >> > see >> >> >> > how >> >> >> > busy >> >> >> > the bee gets!! >> >> >> > Regards >> >> >> > Bhagyashri >> >> >> > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Giby Kuriakose >> >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I hope the attached paper by Prof Shivanna would be interesting >> >> >> >> for >> >> >> >> most >> >> >> >> of us in connection with this thread. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Giby >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 22 October 2011 17:39, Madhuri Raut <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Request for validation >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Is it Adulsa plant? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Date/Time- Sep and Oct 2011 >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-Pune >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Private garden >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Shrub >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Height/Length- about 6 ft >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- green >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- buds looked green and >> >> >> >>> almost >> >> >> >>> after a >> >> >> >>> month these white flowers appeared >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Not seen >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Regards >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Bhagyashri >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >> >> >> >> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >> >> >> >> Royal Enclave, >> >> >> >> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >> >> >> >> Bangalore- 560064 >> >> >> >> India >> >> >> >> Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) >> >> >> >> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> ********************************************************************** >> >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> >> Conservation Officer >> >> >> >> >> >> Office: >> >> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >> >> >> >> Residence: >> >> >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> >> >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >> >> >> >> email: [email protected] >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ********************************************************************** >> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> Conservation Officer >> >> >> >> Office: >> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >> >> Residence: >> >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >> >> email: [email protected] >> >> [email protected] >> >> [email protected] >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ********************************************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: [email protected] >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > > -- ********************************************************************** "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" 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