Sorry sir,
In this series of identification there had been two sets of
photographs... you were referring to the first set and I was to the
second one.. anyhow, in the first set dscn5010a/5017a belong to the same
plant (V. hardwickii) and the dscn5018a belonged to the other plant...
if you need I can re post the second as a different observation...
regards
Alok

On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 07:29 +0530, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
> But Alok ji your numbering does not match: it is 18 & 117 and not 13 &
> 15. 
> 
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> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Alok Mahendroo
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>         Yes sir...
>         Second and third photographs are from the same plant/Flower
>         ( dscn5013a.jpg & dscn5015a.jpg)
>         
>         the First one was just for comparison...
>         regards
>         Alok
>         
>         On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 08:32 +0530, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>         > Alok ji
>         > To resolve the issue, I think you have to check the original
>         > photograph number as you clicked the photographs to know
>         whether these
>         > photographs belong to the same plant. Third is clearly V.
>         hardwickii,
>         > second could be both V. hardwickii or V. jatamansii as Amit
>         ji
>         > suggested.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
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>         >
>         > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM, J.M. Garg
>         <[email protected]> wrote:
>         >         Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise
>         please.
>         >         Some earlier relevant feedback:
>         >         “Perhaps it should be understood that all three
>         species V.
>         >         pyrolaefolia, V. jatamansii and V. hardwickii have
>         simple
>         >         basal leaves. In V. pyrolaefolia cauline are also
>         simple, in
>         >         V. jatamansii cauline 3-fid and in Hardwickii
>         cauline 3-7
>         >         pinnatipartite (which can be clearly seen).
>         >         --
>         >         Dr. Gurcharan Singh”
>         >
>         >         “May be these pictures can clear the doubts over V.
>         jatamansi
>         >         and V. hardwickii
>         >         the 1st pic is V. hardwicki and the 2nd one is V.
>         jatamansi.
>         >         While Alok ji 2 nd picture is clearly V. jatamansi”
>         from Amit
>         >         ji.
>         >
>         >
>         >         “I think Gurcharan ji has the technical data
>         but...you are
>         >         right Pankaj ji there WERE 2 flowers... BUT... In
>         one of the
>         >
>         >         plants I photographed.. the basal leaves were not
>         clearly
>         >         seen,..
>         >         sooo.. I attached dscn5017a.jpg to show the basal
>         leaves...
>         >         I'll go there again tomorrow to get photographs of
>         the leaves
>         >         of both the plants (they could be different
>         valerianas for all
>         >         I know)
>         >         but right now I am attaching more close ups of both
>         the
>         >         flowers and I'll let you decide this...
>         >         regards
>         >         Sincerely
>         >         Alok”
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>         >         From: Alok & Isabelle <[email protected]>
>         >         Date: 22 February 2011 19:59
>         >         Subject: [efloraofindia:63371] valeriana..id
>         al220210
>         >         To: [email protected]
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         Dear friends,
>         >         Another flower for id
>         >         herb
>         >         wild
>         >         2100 mts
>         >         Chamba
>         >         height: 8 inches
>         >
>         >         could be valeriana...
>         >         Alok
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