Sorry sir, In this series of identification there had been two sets of photographs... you were referring to the first set and I was to the second one.. anyhow, in the first set dscn5010a/5017a belong to the same plant (V. hardwickii) and the dscn5018a belonged to the other plant... if you need I can re post the second as a different observation... regards Alok
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 07:29 +0530, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > But Alok ji your numbering does not match: it is 18 & 117 and not 13 & > 15. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Alok Mahendroo > <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes sir... > Second and third photographs are from the same plant/Flower > ( dscn5013a.jpg & dscn5015a.jpg) > > the First one was just for comparison... > regards > Alok > > On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 08:32 +0530, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > > Alok ji > > To resolve the issue, I think you have to check the original > > photograph number as you clicked the photographs to know > whether these > > photographs belong to the same plant. Third is clearly V. > hardwickii, > > second could be both V. hardwickii or V. jatamansii as Amit > ji > > suggested. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > Retired Associate Professor > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM, J.M. Garg > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise > please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > “Perhaps it should be understood that all three > species V. > > pyrolaefolia, V. jatamansii and V. hardwickii have > simple > > basal leaves. In V. pyrolaefolia cauline are also > simple, in > > V. jatamansii cauline 3-fid and in Hardwickii > cauline 3-7 > > pinnatipartite (which can be clearly seen). > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh” > > > > “May be these pictures can clear the doubts over V. > jatamansi > > and V. hardwickii > > the 1st pic is V. hardwicki and the 2nd one is V. > jatamansi. > > While Alok ji 2 nd picture is clearly V. jatamansi” > from Amit > > ji. > > > > > > “I think Gurcharan ji has the technical data > but...you are > > right Pankaj ji there WERE 2 flowers... BUT... In > one of the > > > > plants I photographed.. the basal leaves were not > clearly > > seen,.. > > sooo.. I attached dscn5017a.jpg to show the basal > leaves... > > I'll go there again tomorrow to get photographs of > the leaves > > of both the plants (they could be different > valerianas for all > > I know) > > but right now I am attaching more close ups of both > the > > flowers and I'll let you decide this... > > regards > > Sincerely > > Alok” > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Alok & Isabelle <[email protected]> > > Date: 22 February 2011 19:59 > > Subject: [efloraofindia:63371] valeriana..id > al220210 > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > Another flower for id > > herb > > wild > > 2100 mts > > Chamba > > height: 8 inches > > > > could be valeriana... > > Alok > > -- > > Himalayan Village Education Trust > > Village Khudgot, > > P.O. Dalhousie > > District Chamba > > H.P. 176304, India > > www.hive.interconnection.org > > www.hivetrust.wordpress.com > > www.forwildlife.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > With regards, > > J.M.Garg ([email protected]) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than > a thousand > > species & eight thousand images of Birds, > Butterflies, Plants > > etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. > You can > > also use them for free as per Creative Commons > license > > attached with each image. > > For identification, learning, discussion & > documentation of > > Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia > Google > > e-group: > http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more > > than 1700 members & 79,000 messages on 31/8/11) or > > Efloraofindia website: > > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a > species > > database of around 5500 species) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Himalayan Village Education Trust > Village Khudgot, > P.O. Dalhousie > District Chamba > H.P. 176304, India > > > www.hivetrust.wordpress.com > www.forwildlife.wordpress.com > > http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186 > > > > -- Himalayan Village Education Trust Village Khudgot, P.O. Dalhousie District Chamba H.P. 176304, India www.hivetrust.wordpress.com www.forwildlife.wordpress.com http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186

