Dear Chris: I really appreciate your detailed explanation.. and the ID of the ferns... I had wondered what the two were ever since I first saw the picture...
Don't let the other comments bother you... its all water under the bridge, take a deep breath and say se la vie... keep telling us about the ferns that our member show from time to time, which is not very often, and I have no great idea about the ferns other than the ferns I saw every weekend inside the fern rooms at the NYBG and Bronx Botanical gardens conservatories and occasionally at the other gardens and botanical gardens I visited... Those of us who like gardening add ferns as a textural interest... and they were/are popular houseplants... see you / hear from you at every Fern Submission.... Usha di ---------------- On Nov 19, 3:51 pm, mani nair <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes Dr. Khullar, you are right, but I did not ask for any > identification as can be seen from the subject line nor I was > interested to know the ID of the plant. I am just an amateur gardener > and sent the photos as it was looking beautiful. If people send the > ID then it is not my mistake nor I can stop them from sending the ID. > > Regards, > > Mani Nair > > Dear Sir, > Stop sending such pictures of ferns for any meaningful > identification.If you have to, then also send a close up of the > fertile frond. Otherwise it is "imagined taxonomy" or "looks like" > syndrome. > S P Khullar > > On 11/19/11, Dr. S.P. Khullar <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > Stop sending such pictures of ferns for any meaningful identification.If > > you have to, then also send a close up of the fertile frond. Otherwise it > > is "imagined taxonomy" or "looks like" syndrome. > > S P Khullar > > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:01 AM, mani nair <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Thanks Garg ji and Dr. Chris for the Fern ID. Thanks Dr. Chris also > >> for the compliments. I will definitely convey this to the maker of > >> this vertical garden if I met them in the next plant show. > >> Regards, > >> Mani Nair > > >> On 11/19/11, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > A reply: > >> > "Yes, it hardly needs confirming but these two slightly different > >> cultivars > >> > (yellow and greeen) are both N. exaltata, originally a native of the > >> > Americas, but now cultivated world-wide in many hundreds of gardens, > >> > especially as the many different abnormal monstrosities, which > >> > constitute > >> > various different named cultivars. > >> > The natural species has simple pinnae, but sometimes the plumose > >> > (very divided) forms and furcate forms are so different in shape that it > >> is > >> > hard to tell which actual species they belong to. However in > >> > Nephrolepis > >> > the stipe-scales are very helpful and can pinpoint the underlying > >> > species > >> > even when the shape has become unrecognisable due to these genetic > >> > mutations. > >> > Anyway, the fern itself is not very remarkable as it is widely > >> grown, > >> > but I must offer my congratulations to the splendid vertical stand they > >> > have been arranged in - I have never seen such a fine display in any of > >> the > >> > horticultural shows I often visit. If that were shown at the annual > >> Royal > >> > Horticultural Show, Chelsea, London, one of the biggest and best known > >> > shows, I'm sure it would receive a gold medal. The Queen (of England, I > >> > mean) usually goes to visit that show, and Prince Charles is now a > >> > patron > >> > of the British Pteridological Society (ferns!) and grows many hardy > >> > ferns > >> > and cultivars in his superb garden at Highgrove, Gloucestershire, so > >> would > >> > undoubtedly be very impressed. > >> > Now I understand what "vertical gardening" means - I struggle to > >> be a > >> > mere horizontal gardener, out the back of my flat in Kathmandu, though > >> the > >> > climate is fairly kind to us, apart from the Winter drought, when > >> > there's > >> > also no water in the taps, either! > >> > In the UK there are many very nicely organised fern-gardens, with > >> > greenhouses for the tropical species, but this display beats the lot! > >> > Perhaps it needs more variation in the species grown, to add to the > >> > interest, but the idea and concept are spectacular. > >> > Best wishes, > >> > Chris Fraser-Jenkins, Kathmandu, Nepal. " > > >> > Thanks, Dr. Chris F-J. > > >> > On 18 November 2011 20:21, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: > >> >> “I think this is *Nephrolepis exaltata*. > >> >> Pankaj” > > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >> From: mani nair <[email protected]> > >> >> Date: 25 August 2011 10:21 > >> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:78141] Vertifical-gardening-Ferns > >> >> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> > > >> >> Dear friends, > > >> >> Sending a photo of the Ferns used in Vertical gardening. > > >> >> Place : Byculla Gardens > >> >> Date : February 2010 > >> >> Habitat : Cultivated > > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Mani. > > >> >> -- > >> >> With regards, > >> >> J.M.Garg ([email protected]) > >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand > >> species*& > >> >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > >> >> alphabetically & place-wise): > >> >>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use > >> >> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian > >> Flora, > >> >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: > >> >>http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix(more than 1740 members > >> & > >> >> 90,000 messages on 31/10/11) or Efloraofindia website: > >> >>https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(with a species database > >> >> of more than 6000 species). > >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > >> >> India'. > > >> > -- > >> > With regards, > >> > J.M.Garg ([email protected]) > >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > >> > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >> > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* > >> & > >> > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > >> > alphabetically & place-wise): > >> >http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use > >> them > >> > for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > >> > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian > >> > Flora, > >> > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: > >> >http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix(more than 1740 members & > >> > 90,000 messages on 31/10/11) or Efloraofindia website: > >> >https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(with a species database > >> > of more than 6000 species). > >> > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > >> > India'.
