Satish ji
You are right to point out the possibility. Interestingly it is also
reported in Herbaceous Flora of Dehradun. Here are characteristics of three
suspected species:
I. trifoliata I. prostrata
I. glandulosa
1. Perennial, stout stems Annual, slender erect stems
Annual, slender erect stems
2. Leaflets shallowly notched leaflets obtuse or mucronate
leaflets obtuse or mucronate
3. lower surface black-gland dotted orange-gland dotted
brown-gland dotted
4. pod 8-10 mm long, 4-6 seeded pod 13-15 mm long, 6-9 seeded pod
5-6 mm long, 1-2 seeded
5. pod distinctly winged pod faintly winged
pod distinctly winged, wings toothed
6. seed as long as broad seed as long as broad
seed longer than broad
Based on length of pod and wings, it appears closer to I. trifoliata, but
others are also very close.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just to complete the discussion please try to answer my query too...
> Why it is not I*ndigofera glandulosa*?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Thanks Vijayasankar ji again
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Vijayasankar
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I consider the posted plant as Indigofera trifoliata, mainly due to the
>>> prominent wings. I. prostrata is a prostrate herb with very narrowly winged
>>> pods. It is not I. trita for sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Vijayasankar Raman
>>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>>> University of Mississippi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just came across the description in Herbaceous Flora of Dehradun by
>>>> C R Babu, adjacent to our Chakrata. He reports Indigofera prostrata from
>>>> the area, a species that was treated under I. trifoliata in FBI and few
>>>> other Floras, but as distinct species by Gamble, Babu and now The Plant
>>>> list. According to Babu the two are differentiated as under:
>>>>
>>>> *Indigofera trifoliata: *perennial, stout stems, leaflets shallowly
>>>> notched, stout; pod 8-10 mm long, 2 mm broad, 4-6 seeded; sutures winged,
>>>> seeds as long as broad.
>>>> *Indigofera prostrata:* annual, slender stems, leaflets obtuse
>>>> mucronate, slender; pod 13-15 mm long, 1 mm broad, 8-9 seeded, faintly
>>>> winged; seeds longer than broad.
>>>>
>>>> In above photographs leaves appear mucronate, but other things don't
>>>> match I. prostrata they rather approach I. trifoliata.
>>>> Your comments please.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear H S
>>>>> I did consider I. trita seriously but went for I. trifoliata because:
>>>>> 1. the pods appear winged.
>>>>> 2. under surface of leaf is gland-dotted
>>>>> 3. according to eflora of Pakistan inflorescence may be up to 4.5 cm
>>>>> long in I. trita, here it is sessile
>>>>> 4. I trifoliata is reported from the area, not I. trita
>>>>>
>>>>> Enclosing some more close ups
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>> Retired Associate Professor
>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:20 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Surely Indigofera, but to me it look more like I. trita
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Vijayasankar <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Gurcharan ji, for the nice words and also for the validation.
>>>>>>> I agree with your id : I. trifoliata.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman
>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>>>>>>> University of Mississippi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar ji, you are never wrong
>>>>>>>> I never knew Indigofera has a few species with trifoliate leaves,
>>>>>>>> so perhaps ignored the pod length.
>>>>>>>> Yes it matches with Indigofera trifoliata L. with leaflets
>>>>>>>> gland-dotted on under surface, racemes almost sessile, bright red
>>>>>>>> corolla ,
>>>>>>>> bristle-like calyx teeth and pubescent deflexed pod with weak wings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks a ton for this great lead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor
>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Vijayasankar <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gurcharan ji,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could this be an Indigofera species? I think pods of Lespedeza are
>>>>>>>>> 1-seeded. I may be wrong though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman
>>>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>>>>>>>>> University of Mississippi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Gurcharan Singh <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Resurfacing again for Species ID
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week: Lespedeza sp.
>>>>>>>>>> from Chakrata Tiger fall area
>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Undershrub with robust trailing branches; leaves trifoliate up to
>>>>>>>>>> 2.5 cm long, and red flowers in axillary clusters.
>>>>>>>>>> Photographed from Chakrata Tiger fall road in September.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> - H.S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere
>>>>>> heart of stone
>>>>>>
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> --
> Dr Satish Phadke
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