No mam, you understood it a bit half. To me Adenanthera has less value because its not native. Its an exotic tree where as Pterocarpus is an endemic tree and that too Endangered. The links you shared seems actually to be of planted ones. A broad view will of course be to save each and every plant on earth, so I agree with you on that point. Pankaj
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> wrote: > Pankaj: thanks for expressing your viewpoint, honestly, i liked that > fact... > > The red sandal wood tree grows profusely once established, its seeds > germinate with alacrity, see the links I sent in... > > its also found in Andhra pradesh and see other links i gave... > but your point is well taken... that' s a valid reason in prevailing winds > ... > > i just get angry at millionaire traders who drive around benzes live around > dhakuria lakes have no courage to talk to group leader and ask for advice... > send wife in to collect info thru her own narrow and cloudy filters in her > brain and then cause butchering of an innocent tree... > > > one must learn to protect adenanthera and pterocarpus equally... > > > EQUAL COMPASSION without sidestepping to play favorites or easing morality > is the thing.... to cultivate .... > > you'll understand as you grow ..older wiser and see more of the world... > > till then.... you are forgiven your viewpoint.. and remain a friend ... > > usha di > > ====== > > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I am very happy with such wrongly interpret names. Ask me why? >> Because the real rakt-chandan or the red sandalwood is endemic to >> India found exclusively in Kerala and is considered Endangered. I will >> prefer people to use Adenanthera if it makes them happy, than >> destroying the plants of Pterocarpus in search of so caleld real >> happiness :). >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Ushadi micromini >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Nice pictures BUT this is not, I repeat this is not RED SANDAL"WOOD >> > of Ayurvedic medicine and of HINDU WORSHIP requirements... >> > that real RED SANDALWOOD is " *Pterocarpus santalinus* A RARE TREE >> > "... >> > >> > ((see these threads 1): >> > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/a6ee9ba9b60800d6/5a4be1ee04a683cc?lnk=gst&q=pterocarpus+#5a4be1ee04a683cc >> > >> > AND 2) : >> > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/aa78c6f0d6f0bf2e/7d94a80c2b64f2dd?lnk=gst&q=Pterocarpus+santalinus#7d94a80c2b64f2dd)) >> > >> > >> > MY POINTS IN THIS DISCUSSION: >> > >> > 1): Its a misnomer to call *Adenanthera pavonina* , a red >> > sandalwood ... >> > such misnomers has helped traders cheat unwary customer who buys >> > chunks for puja needs... >> > >> > 2): The wood of this tree when freshly cut is orangish reddish >> > yellowish ... and upon exposure to air for a few days.. turns darker >> > ie gets oxidized , and so looks browish red... but has no faint >> > scent nor the proper energy levels that the real red chandan >> > displays... those of you who are spiritually inclined and know how to >> > measure spiritual energy of an object or person or his/her chakras can >> > do this.. even for a chunk of sandalwood or any wood... and you can >> > try temples, pujari s and even so called self proclaimed gurus... see >> > if they measure up ..:-) >> > >> > >> > 3): Such misnomers are damaging to our tree population… I should >> > know... some misguided soul, a morning walker (a rich trader in south >> > calcutta ) heard me talk of this misnomer to a bunch of my friends >> > when we were walking on a tree id walk, about 7 years ago... in >> > Dhakuria lakes... and a week later he sent his wife on one of these >> > walks (***) and then a week or two later half of the tree was gone >> > and so was that woman (*** because she was new and nobody knew her nor >> > had referred her to us/me, I had asked who referred her.. she said >> > her husband) .. and then .... we discovered the half of the tree >> > gone... we lamented the fact, and we saw the cut (badly mangled ends >> > of the "cut" hacks really... we did what a bunch of middle aged women >> > can do... we complained to the security who shrugged, we tried talking >> > to forest dept... who gave us no response, and so we just sat near the >> > base of the tree and sang songs and said prayers for it to heal and >> > keep growing... (*** (never saw her again, and he reappeared for >> > morning walks a year later) !!! )(ps dont see him now in 2011 )... PS >> > The tree has survivied and is growing, though lopsided) >> > >> > 4): SO THE QUESTION IS HOW TO GET RID OF SUCH MISNOMERS FROM OUR >> > MIDST and LANGUAGE???? >> > >> > >> > 5): Its a popular tree to plant in Calcutta... there are several >> > by the Iskon temple in central office area near camac street, south >> > calcutta suburbs have several, and now one of my neighbors has >> > planted one.. just is in flowers, no seed pods just yet.. Its red >> > seeds sprout very readily .. I'll send in the pictures of the saplings >> > in a separate thread... >> > >> > 6): RAMAN : your pictures are marvelous as usual and the set is >> > complete...almost.... >> > >> > usha di >> > ======= >> > >> > >> > >> > On Jan 2, 8:25 pm, Balkar Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Amazing Shots Raman Ji >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:29 PM, prasad dash >> >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Very nice set again Raman Ji. Especially the pods look superb in your >> >> > lens. >> >> >> >> > Regards >> >> >> >> > Prasad >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:02 AM, raman >> >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Red Sandalwood is a timber tree. This plant is found in the wild in >> >> >> India. Leaves are compound bipinnate, green when young, turning >> >> >> yellow when >> >> >> old. The small, yellowish flower grows in dense drooping rat-tail >> >> >> flower >> >> >> heads, almost like cat-tail flower-heads. Fruits are curved, >> >> >> hanging, green >> >> >> pods that turn brown, coil up and split open as they ripen to reveal >> >> >> small >> >> >> bright red seeds.These attractive seeds have been used as beads in >> >> >> jewellery, leis and rosaries. They were also used in ancient India >> >> >> for >> >> >> weighing gold. The seeds are curiously similar in weight. Four seeds >> >> >> make >> >> >> up about one gramme. Children love the hard red seeds and few can >> >> >> resist >> >> >> collecting the brightly coloured seeds usually littered under the >> >> >> tree. The >> >> >> young leaves can be cooked and eaten. the wood is extremely hard and >> >> >> used >> >> >> in boat-building and making furniture >> >> >> >> >> Raman >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> > Prasad Kumar Dash >> >> > Ecologist, Orissa, India >> >> > email: [email protected] >> >> > ph. 09437444241 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Dr Balkar Singh >> >> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >> >> Arya P G College, Panipat >> >> Haryana-132103 >> >> 09416262964 >> >> >> >> -- >> ********************************************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Orchid Conservation Section >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: [email protected] >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > > -- ********************************************************************** "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" 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