Yes Dinesh ji, great analysis.
Thanks for showing us both species.

-- 
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:

> Many many thanks Gurcharan ji for validating the post, and for the
> differences among the two close species.
> I remember you having put it earlier. But it did not strike me to check
> for these differences in my sightings.
>
> Now clearly seeing the yellow-throated flowers in:
> Jan 14, 2007 ... at Powai, Mumbai
> Dec 20, 2009 ... in a garden of resort at Jawahar, Maharashtra
> -- So these must be *Ipomoea coccinea*.
>
> Let me attach cropped versions of the plant seen on Nov 3, 2007 ... at
> Kharghar Hills, Navi Mumbai.
> They seems to have no yellow throat, and the leaves too are lobed.
> These may be *Ipomoea hederifolia*; please validate.
>
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> i don't see any lobed leaves and yellow throat is very prominent. This is
>> what Hortus Third reprts:
>>
>>  I. hederifolia is often confused with I. coccinea but having always
>> leaves lobed. Here is brief difference;
>> *I. coccinea:* leaves cordate-ovate, to 15 cm long, entire or coarsely
>> dentate; corolla scarlet with yellow throat, to 4 cm long; fruiting pedicel
>> deflexed.
>> *I. hederifolia:* leaves 3-5 lobed, middle lobe ovate-lanceolate,
>> lateral lobes narrower, corolla scarlet, tubular.
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Balkar Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> So bright and clear shots.......
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Ipomoea hederifolia * L.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - *ip-oh-MEE-uh* or *ip-oh-MAY-uh* -- worm-like; referring to
>>>>    coiled flower bud
>>>>    *hed-er-ih-FOH-lee-uh* -- with leaves resembling *Hedera* (Ivy
>>>>    genus)
>>>>    - ... Dave's 
>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf-XnKALJLi4ZvWhItDcjW2mcyZrg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: Ipomoea 
>>>> hederifolia]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F356923177%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdIAXkrxF8iREZTWZYn8d0TLA6ZSg>
>>>> Jan 14, 2007 ... at Powai, Mumbai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *commonly known as*: ivy-leaf morning glory, scarlet creeper, scarlet
>>>> morning glory, star ipomoea, trompillo • *Kannada*: ಹಾಳು ಬಳ್ಳಿ haalu
>>>> balli, ಕಾಡು ತುಮ್ಬೆ kaadu tumbe • *Malayalam*: suryakanti • *Marathi*:
>>>> लाल पुंगळी lal pungli • *Tamil*: kanavalikkodi • *Telugu*: kasiratnam
>>>> ... *help me* by validating the vernacular names, and providing them
>>>> in their native scripts
>>>>
>>>> *Native to*: the Americas; widely naturalized
>>>>
>>>> *References*: Flowers of 
>>>> India<http://www,flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Scarlet%20Morning%20Glory.html>•
>>>>  Dave's
>>>> Garden<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fpf%2Fgo%2F58095%2Findex.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfqyQQ-vpwCJPNt-NuGoLzUBJNUig>•
>>>>  PIER
>>>> species 
>>>> info<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hear.org%2FPier%2Fspecies%2Fipomoea_hederifolia.htm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfxF7fwC3ucG4LIz6ovM97zKQr0SA>•
>>>>  NPGS
>>>> / 
>>>> GRIN<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ars-grin.gov%2Fcgi-bin%2Fnpgs%2Fhtml%2Ftaxon.pl%3F20173&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeogvByiHoOlka4-p1pQr6AjfJ7Aw>•
>>>> *Flowers of Sahyadri* by Shrikant Ingalhalikar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *more views*:
>>>>
>>>>    - Dec 20, 2009 ... in a garden of resort at Jawahar, Maharashtra
>>>>    [image: Star 
>>>> Ipomoea]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4203120000%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcEjhmUewDBhytFUFWcvfxMfiZCVg>
>>>>  [image:
>>>>    
>>>> Trompillo]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4203115990%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcNwUA1bZcuNVQIDJZGESZ7MlPIqg>
>>>>    - Nov 3, 2007 ... at Kharghar Hills, Navi Mumbai
>>>>    [image: Scarlet 
>>>> Creeper]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1842331526%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdrKoyABO_dUH-yKpl1EXoGP60YQQ>
>>>>  [image:
>>>>    Haalu Balli (Kannada: ಹಾಳು 
>>>> ಬಳ್ಳಿ)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1842358080%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcTaWREjmAIa2pHgYUnq0xgoEmWUg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Dr Balkar Singh
>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>>> Haryana-132103
>>> 09416262964
>>>
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