Thank you Sir for those keys on leaves, will take a closer look. ... Broadband is not working, trying to reply using mobile. Regards, Surajit
On 3/16/12, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote: > I think Dinesh has rightly picked up the purple colour which is present on > the margins or centre of the leaves of this species. > Of course other characters like deeply cordate base of the leaves; purple > flower with dark throat and the calyx4-6mm also corresponds well. > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:11 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Madam, >> >> I admit that i acted like a fool. But this identification science is new >> to me and having a degree in Bio-science doesn't help me to ID anything to >> the slightest degree. Moreover, I was/am an average student, a slow >> learner. It takes me much time to gather all data and find a relation >> between the each collected bit. >> >> Yes, Madam, i was familiar with 'Kalmi saag' but that was on the lunch >> table! As for the daily bazaar, my brother takes care of that! >> >> Regards, >> >> Surajit >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Ushadi micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Surajit : >>> >>> nice logical steps... but wrong... since you might be very familiar with >>> Kalmi saag.... did you never doubt your own analysis??? ... esp that of >>> the stem.... and its presence or absence of hollow tube like nature of >>> the >>> stem... and the shape etc of the leaf, even before on analyses the >>> flower???? >>> >>> >>> Kalmi saag is Ipomea aquatica, as far as I know... >>> Correct me if that is not so... >>> Usha di >>> -= >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:58:50 PM UTC+5:30, surajit koley wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Friends, >>>> >>>> I have a confession : In my earlier post (https://groups.google.com/** >>>> forum/?fromgroups#!topic/**indiantreepix/AhKBuSzkA5U<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21topic/indiantreepix/AhKBuSzkA5U>) >>>> seeking the ID of this plant i failed to elaborate on the habit & >>>> habitat >>>> of this plant. Because i didn't have any photo of the leaves or stem at >>>> that time. Neither did i observe it carefully. >>>> >>>> So, i hereby apologize to Mani Sir for making an inadvertent >>>> inconvenience to him. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Surajit Koley >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:41 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]**> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Extremely sorry Sir for my misspelling in my earlier reply post. I >>>>> wanted to say - >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Sir. It's all because of this great 'efloraofindia' group >>>>> with all its nicest persons. My perception of the flora world >>>>> completely >>>>> changed overnight. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Surajit >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 08:46:00 UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Great observations and analysis Surajit ji >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com**/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg**45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:34 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]****> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good morning Sir. Thank you for the ID. >>>>>>> Have a nice day. >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ... *Ipomoea marginata* (Desr.) Verdc. >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:25 PM, surajit koley (Google Docs) < >>>>>>>> [email protected]****> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've shared Convolvulaceae Week: Ipomoea sp. from Hooghly >>>>>>>>> (WB)<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EAjHfDBZ2U0SLmIzwZaqBd1wuiqTs9qkNuc9T_xqwWk/edit> >>>>>>>>> Click to open: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Convolvulaceae Week: Ipomoea sp. from Hooghly >>>>>>>>> (WB)<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EAjHfDBZ2U0SLmIzwZaqBd1wuiqTs9qkNuc9T_xqwWk/edit> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I thought it was some other species, not an Ipomoea aquatica. The >>>>>>>>> reasoning behind my anticipation was - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> a) It is a twining climber found on roadside having ditches beside >>>>>>>>> it. But a point to be noted is that those ditches are entirely dry >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> b) The leaf blade is significantly broader and there is variation >>>>>>>>> in blade-shapes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> c) Stem is narrower and hairy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> d) Stamens protrude outside of the corolla >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> e) Anthers are purple >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> f) Flowers are a tad smaller and appearance of the flower is a bit >>>>>>>>> pentagonal than a perfect round shape >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Having been suggested by Mani Sir i too think now that it is also a >>>>>>>>> Ipomoea >>>>>>>>> aquatica, maybe slightly modified due to terrestrial adaptation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yet a google search leads me to the following websites that contain >>>>>>>>> similar leaves and flowers with very minute variations. Of-course >>>>>>>>> wiki says >>>>>>>>> that this plant is from North America! :- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. http://www.discoverlife.org/**mp**/20q?search=Ipomoea+** >>>>>>>>> pandurata<http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Ipomoea+pandurata> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. http://florapittsburghensis.**wo**rdpress.com/2010/07/25/wild-** >>>>>>>>> po**tato-vine-ipomoea-pandurata/<http://florapittsburghensis.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/wild-potato-vine-ipomoea-pandurata/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>>>> http://www.**arbolesornamentales**.es/**Ipomoea.htm<http://www.arbolesornamentales.es/Ipomoea.htm> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Species : Ipomoea sp. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Habit : wild twiner with hairy stem >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Habitat : roadside >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Date : 07-Mar-2012, 12-Mar-2012 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Place : Gobra (Hooghly), West Bengal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (images 800x600 each) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> flower close-up >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> flowers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> underside view of a flower >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> flower & a leaf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> narrow hairy stem >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> roadside vegetation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wild twiner >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> purple anthers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------ END ---------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online >>>>>>>>> documents, spreadsheets and presentations. >>>>>>>>> [image: Logo for Google Docs] <https://docs.google.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:58:50 PM UTC+5:30, surajit koley wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Friends, >>>> >>>> I have a confession : In my earlier post (https://groups.google.com/** >>>> forum/?fromgroups#!topic/**indiantreepix/AhKBuSzkA5U<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21topic/indiantreepix/AhKBuSzkA5U>) >>>> seeking the ID of this plant i failed to elaborate on the habit & >>>> habitat >>>> of this plant. Because i didn't have any photo of the leaves or stem at >>>> that time. Neither did i observe it carefully. >>>> >>>> So, i hereby apologize to Mani Sir for making an inadvertent >>>> inconvenience to him. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Surajit Koley >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:41 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]**> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Extremely sorry Sir for my misspelling in my earlier reply post. I >>>>> wanted to say - >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Sir. It's all because of this great 'efloraofindia' group >>>>> with all its nicest persons. My perception of the flora world >>>>> completely >>>>> changed overnight. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Surajit >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 08:46:00 UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Great observations and analysis Surajit ji >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com**/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg**45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:34 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]****> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good morning Sir. Thank you for the ID. >>>>>>> Have a nice day. >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ... *Ipomoea marginata* (Desr.) Verdc. >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:25 PM, surajit koley (Google Docs) < >>>>>>>> [email protected]****> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've shared Convolvulaceae Week: Ipomoea sp. from Hooghly >>>>>>>>> (WB)<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EAjHfDBZ2U0SLmIzwZaqBd1wuiqTs9qkNuc9T_xqwWk/edit> >>>>>>>>> Click to open: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Convolvulaceae Week: Ipomoea sp. from Hooghly >>>>>>>>> (WB)<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EAjHfDBZ2U0SLmIzwZaqBd1wuiqTs9qkNuc9T_xqwWk/edit> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I thought it was some other species, not an Ipomoea aquatica. The >>>>>>>>> reasoning behind my anticipation was - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> a) It is a twining climber found on roadside having ditches beside >>>>>>>>> it. But a point to be noted is that those ditches are entirely dry >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> b) The leaf blade is significantly broader and there is variation >>>>>>>>> in blade-shapes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> c) Stem is narrower and hairy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> d) Stamens protrude outside of the corolla >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> e) Anthers are purple >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> f) Flowers are a tad smaller and appearance of the flower is a bit >>>>>>>>> pentagonal than a perfect round shape >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Having been suggested by Mani Sir i too think now that it is also a >>>>>>>>> Ipomoea >>>>>>>>> aquatica, maybe slightly modified due to terrestrial adaptation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yet a google search leads me to the following websites that contain >>>>>>>>> similar leaves and flowers with very minute variations. Of-course >>>>>>>>> wiki says >>>>>>>>> that this plant is from North America! :- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. http://www.discoverlife.org/**mp**/20q?search=Ipomoea+** >>>>>>>>> pandurata<http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Ipomoea+pandurata> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. http://florapittsburghensis.**wo**rdpress.com/2010/07/25/wild-** >>>>>>>>> po**tato-vine-ipomoea-pandurata/<http://florapittsburghensis.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/wild-potato-vine-ipomoea-pandurata/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>>>> http://www.**arbolesornamentales**.es/**Ipomoea.htm<http://www.arbolesornamentales.es/Ipomoea.htm> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Species : Ipomoea sp. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Habit : wild twiner with hairy stem >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Habitat : roadside >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Date : 07-Mar-2012, 12-Mar-2012 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Place : Gobra (Hooghly), West Bengal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (images 800x600 each) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> flower close-up >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> flowers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> underside view of a flower >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> flower & a leaf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> narrow hairy stem >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> roadside vegetation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wild twiner >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> purple anthers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------ END ---------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online >>>>>>>>> documents, spreadsheets and presentations. >>>>>>>>> [image: Logo for Google Docs] <https://docs.google.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> > > > -- > Dr Satish Phadke >
