Gurcharanji I found a univ of queensland teaching manual ... in it they
describe exactly the two leaf types you just talked of...
I am sending the url in for sake of sharing with other non-botanists like
me and for sake of completion for archives...
Thanks again
Usha di
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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:

> Ushadi
> There is a famous doctrine in Biology which all of us are familiar with
> "Ontogeny Repeats Phyllogeny". The modified leaf of Australian Acacia
> (Acacia auriculiformis) is derived from the normal bipinnate leaves so
> common in other Acacia species. In this evolutionary modification the
> pinnae got reduced and their function was taken up by the flattened petiole
> (called Phyllode, as against phylloclade of Opuntia which is a modified
> stem taking function of leaf) of the leaf in the adult plant. Hence it is
> common to see juvenile plants with some pinnae at the tip of the phyllode,
> and these eventually fall off. Adult trees are without these pinnae and
> have only flattened phyllodes functioning as leaves. Of course every leaf
> has to fall once it has become old: In evergreen trees they develop and
> fall off periodically so that tree remains green throughout the year
> (Mango, Alstonia, etc.); In deciduous trees on the other hand the fresh
> leaves appear in spring (Late February-March-early April) and all fall off
> in autumn so that tree remains naked for few months in winter (Prunus,
> Pyrus, Salix, Populus).
>   Delhi (and perhaps some other warmer cities in India) don't have typical
> four seasons. Here so called autumn is brief few days in March when
> deciduous trees suddenly lose their leaves and fresh leaves come up after a
> gap of few days, the Delhi Spring.
>
> I hope I have shared some helpful information.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:44 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Usha di,
>>
>> Wish you a happy Hindu New Year. Thank you very much for your
>> curiosities, hope I satisfy them at least partially.
>>
>> This is my first attempt to handle the new format yet I believe that my
>> post carries the name Acacia auriculiformis. Ironically the post itself
>> became more intriguing than the leaves. Earleaf Acacia and Australian
>> Acacia are more names to help you navigate with Google. Pardon me for
>> defficient and confusing information. I am attaching another image to help
>> you ID this invasive tree that has reached most of our wild habitats.
>>
>> I am also a pitiable non botanist like most of us. Please excuse me to
>> have narrated in a style that disguises me to be a card carrying botanist.
>> I take privilege of passing the batton of your queries to a person who
>> carries the necessary stars and shoulder pips.With regards.Shrikant
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:02:53 PM UTC+5:30, Ushadi wrote:
>>
>>> BUT I am still ignorant of the tree's ID and
>>> what happens when that flat "leaf " falls off, does it mean that the
>>> small leaves on its apex fall off too?
>>> so some leaves have pinnae and some donot? as in this pic...
>>>
>>> if I knew the name , I could google it...
>>> then I would not have to bother you...
>>>
>>> but all this discussion without a name, assumes that most of the 1900
>>> members are all botanists...  REMEMBER ONLY A HANDFUL ARE CARD CARRYING
>>> BOTANISTS>> THE REST OF US are NON BOTANISTS....   so please take pity on
>>> us ....
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Usha di
>>> ====
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Very good illustration.
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM, shrikant ingalhalikar <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This common exotic tree is seen with only falcategreen veinless
>>>>> phyllodes whichdisguise like simple leaves. Like most Acacias this should
>>>>> havebeen havingbi-pinnate leaves. Interestingly this Acacia too has
>>>>> bipinnate leaves but they are seen only in sapling stage. Pinnae2, 2-5 cm,
>>>>> deciduous; leafletsopposite, 6-10, sessile, oblong, 5-8 mm; petiole 5-8 
>>>>> mm,
>>>>> modifying and elongating to a phyllode 10-15 cm long. Scar of fallen 
>>>>> pinnae
>>>>> can be seen at the rounded apex of the phyllode. Regards, Shrikant
>>>>> Ingalhalikar
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Usha di
>>> ===========
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>


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Usha di
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