Dear Surajit ji,

 "And *everybody *supports them. I too want to save myself from snakebites.
I too want to control weeds. Just can't support this level of destruction".

I think I misunderstood then, I thought you are also included in that *
everybody*. If I misunderstood and took it wrongly, *please forgive me*.
Please don't consider that my mail was solely meant for you. But count it
as a general feeling, if you don't mind.



Thanks and Regards
Giby




On 12 June 2012 22:19, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Giby Sir,
>
> When & where did i say that i supported destructive use of fatal
> herbicides to get rid off snakes!!! Does any of the following posts reflect
> that?-
>
>    -
>    
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/_SVfi-cQvGc
>    -
>    
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/9Ibo_vMz6yw
>    -
>    
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/uQjsXsS2Fds
>
> Yet, i killed 4 Russell's vipers that entered into my bathroom, during the
> last five years, at night, each one in rainy season, year on year basis,
> each one hanging from bathroom door attached with main building, not
> outside the building that can be seen in many village households.
>
> Thank you & Regards,
>
> surajit
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Giby Kuriakose 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I do not agree with you on the usage of herbicides to get rid of snakes.
>> It is not necessary to go where snakes inhabits (if you are sure there are
>> snakes).
>>
>> I have been working in rain forests in the Western Ghats for the last 16
>> years and I never thought about snake bit but do think about that they are
>> there. Because forest is the home for such animals and we are intruders.
>>
>> I did my phd in Kudremukh forests. I took 4 years to complete my field
>> work. At the same time, I assisted my colleague in the night to do her
>> night sampling on crickets in a King Cobra country! I met with King cobra
>> thrice, but not there. They go for their business, you have to give way for
>> them to go. Otherwise they would question you! Any accidental step on their
>> body would create mishaps. But it is the trust on forest and inhabitants,
>> we go there. This is my believe. My colleague got bitten by Hump nosed pit
>> Viper. She was always asking, like, "what to do if I get bitten by snake"?
>> and "where and all we see them" each and every steps were with scary
>> thoughts of snakebites.
>> I would suggest not to think of snakes with a scary mind setup but
>> believe in yourself then things would be easy.
>> Hence I request to think that they are also good friend of us just like a
>> cat or a dog. If you provoke your cat or dog too much, they would also
>> bite, Isn't it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and Regards,
>> Giby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12 June 2012 21:23, surajit koley <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Giby Sir,
>>>
>>> I agree with you, nobody cares.... However, this is not agri-land, it's
>>> a usual piece of unutilized vacant land that can be found in any village.
>>>
>>> Rehgards,
>>>
>>> surajit
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Giby Kuriakose <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I assume that this might be an agricultural land and somebody (farmer)
>>>> might have used some herbicide to kill all herbaceous plants. This is a
>>>> common weeding practice in Kerala nowadays that kills all chlorophyllous
>>>> plants. Now no laborer to pick the actual weeds. Nobody cares about the
>>>> soil micro -flora and -fauna and their importance in agriculture. Everybody
>>>> is after 20:20:0:15 ( a fertilizer by FACTproduct). As long as they get
>>>> chemical fertilizers they dont need to understand what is going on.... We
>>>> see lots of changes in our farm after we stopped any chemical application
>>>> in our farm for the last 10-13 years. We slowely reduced it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Giby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Giby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12 June 2012 10:00, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Surajit
>>>>> that s Atish plant , isn't it...
>>>>> why are they being sprayed?
>>>>>
>>>>> usually grown in gardens, hedges I thought ... why would they or their
>>>>> surrounding be sprayed?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *SECONDLY.*.. this is the horror that  Rachel Carson wrote about in
>>>>> her seminal book "SILENT SPRING"... I read it a few months after it came
>>>>> out, it has affected my outlook on life like no other ...   it came out
>>>>> long before most of you were even born... but its good to read it now...
>>>>> its still very relevant.. new editions are out,,, most indian bookstores
>>>>> also carry it.. i think and many libraries  too...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for highlighting  this problem...
>>>>> may be we can have a thread dedicated to this ...
>>>>> Usha di
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:28 PM, surajit koley <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sir / Madam,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In one of my earlier post i mentioned about a killer chemical that
>>>>>> mercilessly destroys every plant and related fauna. This common lime
>>>>>> butterfly (*Papilio demoleus*) is in search of fresh *Glycosmis
>>>>>> pentaphylla* leaves so that it could lay eggs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Species : *Glycosmis pentaphylla* (Retz.)
>>>>>> Habit & Habitat : common shrub
>>>>>> Date : 9/6/12, 9.20 a.m.
>>>>>> Place : Nalikul (Hooghly)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you & Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Surajit Koley
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Usha di
>>>>> ===========
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
>>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE),
>>>> Royal Enclave,
>>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura
>>>> Bangalore- 560064
>>>> India
>>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile)
>>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE),
>> Royal Enclave,
>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura
>> Bangalore- 560064
>> India
>> Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile)
>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
>>
>
>


-- 
GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE),
Royal Enclave,
Jakkur Post, Srirampura
Bangalore- 560064
India
Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile)
visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby

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