Thanks Dinesh ji for keenly observing the characters. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
> Satish ji ... to me your plant looks different from *T. indicum* that I > am familiar ... at least the calices, in closed and open condition > certainly look different, the lobes of corolla too clearly hint of spiral > ending at their tips. > Thus *T. zeylanicum*. > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Satish Phadke <[email protected]> >> Date: 7 June 2012 19:24 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:118988] Boraginaceae Week :: Trichodesma >> zeylanicum, Pune >> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >> >> >> *Trichodesma zeylanicum >> Please validate. >> *I was just checking for all the posts with subject line* Trichodesma >> indicum.* >> As Dinesh ji said T.indicum and T.zeylanicum are very close and difficult >> to differentiate from each other. >> On careful searching I found important characters to differentiate >> Trichodesmas. >> 1. Stamens included Corolla tube longer than lobes, >> lobes shortly acuminate, not recurved .... .... .... >> .... .... T.inaequale. >> 1. Stamens exserted; corolla tube as long as, or shorter than lobes, >> lobes acuminate, recurved .... .... .... .... .... >> .... .... >> 2. Glandular spots on corolla lobes; calyx hastate or cordate >> .... T.indicum >> 2. Glandular spots absent on corolla lobes; calyx rounded >> .... T. zeylanicum >> Considering the above characters esp the calyx is clearly not hastate >> here.As against to this the plants posted as T.indicum by Dinesh ji >> Prashant ji and Nidhan ji clearly have hastate calyx more clearly seen in >> sideview.. >> The pattern of dark tinge on the petals here is also different. I think >> my posted plant is T.zeylanicum. >> -- >> Dr Satish Phadke >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1870 members & >> 1,18,000 messages on 31/5/12) or Efloraofindia website: >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >> of more than 6500 species). >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> >> > -- Dr Satish Phadke
