Yes Gurcharan ji ... I was looking at the leaves that I could see at the top ! Indeed bottom leaf has more such lobes, but cannot exactly get to a figure as it is hidden in most of my photos. Regards. Dinesh
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > Dinesh ji > We must look at lower leaves, not floral leaves. Pl. see the number of > lobes in the first photograph. > > You may please compare with P. punctata uploaded by me from Kashmir. > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/indiantreepix/Pedicularis$20punctata$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/Ag98ayVboms/AgyGaTfPo3EJ > > You may additionally see a lower (middle) leaf attached here. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Please take care of the newborn, Gurcharan ji. IDs can be resolved any >> time later. >> >> My observations: >> Leaf lobes are more towards ( 4 - 6 pairs ). The corolla tube varies from >> short to long. >> Bit of hairy calyx can be observed in this picture ... >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/7832459570/sizes/o/in/photostream/ >> Many thanks. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Pennell does not record P. siphonantha from Western Himalayas, but Nepal >>> Checklist does >>> P. siphonantha differs from P. punctata (leaf lobes 4-6 pairs) and P. >>> hookeriana (leaf lobes 6-12 pairs) in corolla tube being more than 4 times >>> as long as calyx. I can't see the calyx in any flower in focus, but corolla >>> tube appears sufficiently long to place it in P. siphonantha, but if >>> corolla tube is shorter, closest match should be P. hookeriana. >>> >>> *SORRY FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO GIVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO CRITICALLY STUDY >>> VoF PLANTS AS I AM IN THE HOSPITAL WHOLE DAY WHERE OUR GRAND DAUGHTER IS >>> TO STAY AFTER DELIVERY, HOPEFULLY WOULD BE FREE IN TWO TO THREE DAYS AND >>> DEVOTE MORE TIME.* >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Many thanks Balkar ji for the strong thought. >>>> Will wait for just another validating comment. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Balkar Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes Dinesh ji most likely Pedicularis punctata another less likely >>>>> option is P siphonantha >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> [image: Valley of >>>>>> Flowers]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7795632618%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfiscXcV1ezkljkoVaSBkd-7VO2FQ> >>>>>> 2 >>>>>> AUG 12 >>>>>> Valley of Flowers ... about 11000 - 12000 ft >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Dear friends, ID please. >>>>>> *Habitat*: sloping meadow >>>>>> *Habit*: small shrub, about 30 - 40 cm high, flower: about 2 - 2.5 >>>>>> cm long, 1 - 1.5 cm across >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Pedicularis ¿ punctata >>>>>> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7832453424%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeW1kpg0zQ0W3Fyv7raohLzML3qEg> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Pedicularis ¿ punctata >>>>>> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7832467170%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUREYNkyzSXqQIi3yeUH9uM9uMtA> >>>>>> [image: >>>>>> Pedicularis ¿ punctata >>>>>> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7832447264%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc-ZvWDOr5LN2YSoqTArtZpfPqzeg> >>>>>> [image: >>>>>> Pedicularis ¿ punctata >>>>>> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7832459570%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzerFCOk0g0j_UkbyDjS-lSuiUW_rg> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>> 09416262964 >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > --
