Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. Some earlier relevant feedback:
Thanks Dinesh ji, you found at least in fruiting condition. I could catch it in flowering in May only. Completely missed it in previous years in Kashmir in July-August. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Fritillaria$20roylei/indiantreepix/U9UaSLWJvy0/JpSL0MUUoaYJ -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh I thought Fritillaria cirrhosa was a plant of Eastern Himalayas and Fritillaria roylei a plant of Western Himalayas. This synonymy at the plant list is confusing. GRIN still treats them as separate. - Tabish Also the leaves don't look like those of Fritillaria cirrhosa at all. from Tabish ji. Actually Dinesh,* I am having doubts about this being Fritillaria at all*, not that I have much experience with it. F. roylei is supposed to be 1-2 ft tall - this plant appears taller. Also, the flowers are nodding, whereas the fruit here is upright. It might happen of course that in fruiting the stalks become erect, but I need somebody to tell me that it does happen. - Tabish These were standing about a metre tall or even 1.25 m, as much as I can recollect. Transformation of a nodding flower to an upright fruit is worth understanding. Regards. Dinesh Thanks Tabish ji for raising the doubt. Erect fruit is no problem, as I have seen plenty of them (one attached here) in related species F. imperialis (in which flowers are more strongly nodding). The leaves are, however, a problem clearly. Besides being slightly broader, they are clearly alternate here (opposite mostly in F. roylei, though few may be alternate). Besides the three bracteal leaves generally seen below the flower of Fritillaria roylei (and should be there in fruit also) are missing here. After a lot of thinking, *I propose Lilium polyphyllum as possible ID of above plant *by Dinesh ji. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Date: 27 August 2012 00:58 Subject: [efloraofindia:126481] VoF Week :: DV :: 02 AUG 12 - 1041 :: Fritillaria cirrhosa at Valley of Flowers To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> * Fritillaria cirrhosa * D.Don ... (family: Liliaceae) syn. *Fritillaria roylei* Hook. [image: Valley of Flowers]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7795632618%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfiscXcV1ezkljkoVaSBkd-7VO2FQ> 2 AUG 12 Valley of Flowers ... about 11600 ft ------------------------------ [image: Fritillaria roylei]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7821702408%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeljzAAZeiLl1qIPkqnbS1aRbxrDA> [image: Fritillaria roylei]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7821640264%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeVKWFTOvPDCiyI7EPgFedyg9ugFg> Regards. Dinesh -- -- With regards, J.M.Garg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1950 members & 1,27,800 messages on 31/8/12) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of more than 7000 species). Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. --
