Sir, Thank you once again.
I am sorry that data deficiency may plague this species to identify it to species level. Regards, surajit On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 1:51 PM, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > Surajit ji > It would have to much easier for us if you had given the characters on the > basis of which you rejected M. himalayana and chose M. diplotricha. > On the basis of preliminary comparison your plant does not appear M. > diplotrich, in which there are generally more than 20 pairs of leaflets and > latter are densely silky. > One important thing to note is that your first plant is much different > from your other photographs, in both number of pinnae, number of leaflets > and flower colour. I fear they may be two different species. The first has > nearly 10 pairs of pinnae and 11-12 pairs of leaflets.with much longer > leaves. The other seems to have 5-7 pairs of pinnae and 10-12 pairs of > leaflets. > Both M. rubicaulis and M. himalayana (often treated under one species) are > recognised as distinct species by the Plant List and Monograph on Indian > Mimosa by Gamble. Former has usually 4-6 pairs of pinnae and 10-15 pairs of > leaflets. Latter has 8-12 pairs of pinnae and 16-20 pairs of leaflets. *Your > plant (except first) seem to be fitting M. rubicailis. > *I am attaching the paper for your reference.- from Singh ji. > > Thank you very much for elaborating on Mimosa sp. > I am not sure if the attached pictures were of the same plant. > There were a small community at that place, spreading along railway tracks > and 100 meters away from the railway tracks, inside a private unused land, > inaccessible to me. > > I took more than 50 pictures from 3 plants lined in a series, having a > space of about 20 to 30 feet between each other, along the rail tracks. Of > these 3 plants, the first two were beyond my reach and i could take only > distant shots with my 5x (200mm) zoom. I could access a branch of the 3rd > plant and took closer photographs. > I regret that i didn't record any leaf, leaflet, petiole, peduncle > measurements and could not find any fruit. > It was a cloudy day with high wind and the sun played hide & seek. Colour > variation in attached photographs resulted from variable intensity of > sunlight and controlled aperture setting by myself. > The description of Mimosa diplotricha available in the sites i cited in my > post is confusing. An example : 11 to 30 pairs of leaflets on each of 3 to > 10 pairs of pinnae. However, one site states leaflets sessile, opposite, > lanceolate, acute - > http://www.hear.org/pier/species/mimosa_diplotricha.htm, whereas leaflets > in my post, i think, not acute. > I very much wanted to ID this plant as M. himalayana, but nowhere i could > found that M. himalayana is moderately sensitive, even in any thread in the > group posts i browsed :- > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/zG9JSldfGrM/discussion > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/oZG_RHlyZsE/discussion > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/bg07F2ITOXY/discussion > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/rdS2y0wu_jw/discussion > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/N8k8RXeySio/discussion > One thread in group informs M. himalayana is a small tree, my plant is not. > Attaching larger pictures of the same plant or plants. > *If Mimosa himalayana is a sensitive plant then my species is Mimosa > himalayana. > *Thank you once again, > Regards, > surajit > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: surajit koley <[email protected]> > Date: 9 September 2012 01:27 > Subject: [efloraofindia:129387] Mimosa diplotricha from Hooghly > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Sir, > > I asked myself - > > 1. "Is it Mimosa pudica?" > 2. "Is it sensitive?" > 3. "Is this an illusion?" > > When i saw this plant i was sure that it was *Mimosa pudica*. But when i > touched it, it didn't response! I touched again, this time harder, but it > didn't response. I hit it with my plastic scale on its highly prickled stem > and it appeared to me that it did response! Or was it an illusion, i asked > myself. > > As i was going through my old records of *Mimosa pudica* i realized that > it was not the same plant. Net search gave me *Mimosa > himalayana<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/0Uee97BPYxw/discussion> > *. I was about to id this plant with the same. But searched further and > found *Mimosa diplotricha* at FoC - > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242332757. > > I think this is *Mimosa diplotricha* var. *diplotricha* as in FoC - > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250019707. > > Species : *Mimosa diplotricha* var. *diplotricha* > Habit & Habitat : shrub, about 6.5 feet, beside railway track > Date : 01-Sept.-2012, 4.30 P.M. > Place : Baruipara (Hooghly) > ID help : > > - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120751 > - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242332757 > - http://www.daff.qld.gov.au/4790_7289.htm > - http://www.hear.org/pier/species/mimosa_diplotricha.htm > - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimosa_diplotricha > - FoP doesn't feature this plant - > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=120751 > > Regards, > > surajit > > > > > -- > > > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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