Love it love this discussion and I remember the key, now I'll go back and look it up and take it step by step... to learn some botany:)
Usha di On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Sonia Chauhan <[email protected]>wrote: > Thank you all once again. I'm really touched by the manner in which > you have all resolved the id of this beautiful herb. > > On 22 September 2012 21:29, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yes Senna alexandrina Mill. (syn: Senna angustifolia (Vahl) Batka; > Cassia angustifolia Vahl). > > > > Yes it is there in my key on the website. > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > Retired Associate Professor > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Sonia Chauhan <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Gurcharan sir, > >> > >> I am thrilled to be a part of this wonderful group, being able to learn > so much through the efforts of veterans like yourself. > >> > >> Many thanks to Vijayasankar ji and Anil ji for their valuable inputs in > this thread. > >> > >> About this herb, right now I unable to revisit the place where I saw it > but I am attaching some more pictures for better clarity. Have tried to > answer your point-wise queries below: > >> > >> 1. There were two long stamens that were curving towards each other and > I can only estimate the size from memory that it was around 1 cm. The > smaller stamens were around half the size. I didn't count the number of > stamens. I've attached a full-size cropped picture of the flower in case it > is helpful. > >> > >> 2. The fruit is 5.5 cms long and 2 cms wide. Yes, it is flattened. Have > attached another picture. > >> > >> 3. Glands are definitely absent. > >> > >> 4. About the stipules, I really don't know ... I'll have to take > another look at the plant. > >> > >> 5. The seeds belong to this plant only, I am sure of it. > >> > >> Thank you all once again. > >> > >> > >> On 21 September 2012 23:58, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Yes Sonia ji > >>> Glands are very important for identification. I was about to as you > about it but thought let me put in some guess. If you have plant within > your reach please verify the following > >>> > >>> 1. length of longest filament (excluding anther), and total number of > developed stamens; any difference in length (number of each type) > >>> 2. Exact length of fruit, its breadth (is more important). I hope the > fruit is flattened. > >>> 3. Glands present or absent, if present their number on petiole/ > between the leaflets. > >>> 4. Shape of stipules if present, size > >>> 5. Make sure than uploaded seed belongs to this plant only. Its shape > confuses me. > >>> > >>> Pl. see my key on the website > >>> > >>> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/cassia > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>> Retired Associate Professor > >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Sonia Chauhan < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear sir, > >>>> > >>>> Thank you so much for the identification. I immediately searched for > >>>> Senna sophera on google after seeing your message. > >>>> > >>>> I have one small doubt, I just read on the net that this herb bears a > >>>> round gland above the base of the petiole. I am confused because the > >>>> herb that I saw does not bear any gland anywhere on the leaf stalk. Is > >>>> this a very important feature in the identification of this herb? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 21 September 2012 22:22, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > I hope Senna sophera > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > -- > >>>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>> > Retired Associate Professor > >>>> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>> > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > >>>> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Sonia Chauhan < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Dear all, > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Please help to identify this herb growing wild near Baroda. It is > around 1.5 feet tall. Leaf size is 15 cms from base of petiole to the apex > of the top leaflet. The size of the leaflet in the topmost pair is 3.5 cms > and the size of the leaflet in the lowest pair is around 2 cms. Pod size > 5.5 cms and seed size is around 1 cm. Flowers yellow, as seen in the photo. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> -- > >>>> >> Regards, > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Sonia Chauhan > >>>> >> > >>>> >> -- > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Sonia Chauhan > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> > >> Sonia Chauhan > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Sonia Chauhan > > -- > > > > -- Usha di =========== --
