Thank you very much Tapas ji. Regards. Dinesh
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>wrote: > I strongly believe that it is Phyllanthus simplex and the variation > indicated is only an individual variation due to polyploidy of this widely > distributed weed. P. virgatus does not occur in India, as per reference of > Webster. Our book on family Phyllanthaceae in Indian subcontinent is > awaiting publication. First of all. we are offering VOLUME 23 OF FLORA OF > INDIA, containing families Loranthaceae to Daphniphyllaceae, by BSI. It is > in press now. > Tapas Chakrabarty. > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Many thanks to Tapas ji for his response to my final query. >> Am considering the posted plant to be *Phyllanthus simplex* Retz. var. * >> simplex* >> >> >> From his response, these help me: >> *b. ...* Leaves mostly chartaceous; male pedicels and sepals ca 0.5 mm >> long; fruiting pedicels *2 – 6 mm long*; seeds ca 1.5 mm long *... ... >> ...* 30.2. var. simplex >> >> >> >> 30.2. var. *simplex* >> Flowering & fruiting: Jan. - Dec. (flowers: pale yellowish white or >> greenish; fruits: greenish). >> Local names: Assm.: Bon-babri; Guj.: Motibhonyaanmali; Hindi: Bhuinamla; >> Mar.: >> Bruia-vali, Motithuiavali; Sans.: Tandameral; Tel.: Uchinyusirika. >> Habitat: A common weed in waste placed, cultivated fields, roadsides, >> river banks, grassland, forest undergrowth, on loamy soil up to 1500 m >> altitude. >> Distribution: Sri Lanka and India to SE. Asia, S. China and Malesia (in >> Melanesia intergrading with P. virgatus G. Forst.) >> >> >> Thank you very much Tapas ji for the reference notes. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Tapas ji, Vijayasankar ji, >>> In the posted plant we find the fruit to be having just about or under 1 >>> mm stalk - is this an acceptable variation in *P. virgatus* (= *P. >>> simplex*) ? >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Dinesh Valke >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> And many thanks Garg ji for resurfacing the query, as well for >>>> forwarding Tapas ji's response. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Dinesh Valke >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you very much Tapas ji for the ID. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:30 AM, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A reply: >>>>>> " >>>>>> >>>>>> *It is Phyllanhus simplex. >>>>>> * >>>>>> >>>>>> * >>>>>> * >>>>>> >>>>>> *Phyllanthus simplex* Retz., Observ. Bot. 5: 29. 1789; Müll.Arg. in >>>>>> DC. Prodr. 15(2): 391. 1866; Hook.f., Fl. Brit. India 5: 295. 1887; >>>>>> Gamble, >>>>>> Fl. Madras 2(7): 1289. 1925 (repr. ed. 2: 902. 1957). * Macraea >>>>>> oblongifolia* Wight, Icon. Pl. Ind. Orient. 5(2): 27, t. 1902, f. 1. >>>>>> 1852. *Phyllanthus simplex* var. *oblongifolius*(Wight) Müll.Arg. in >>>>>> Linnaea 32: 32. 1863 & in DC., Prodr. 15 (2): 391. 1866; Hook.f., l. c. >>>>>> 295. 1887. *P. virgatus* auct. non G.Forst., 1786: Chakrab. & >>>>>> N.P.Balakr. in J. Econ. Taxon. Bot. Addit. Ser. 9: 98. 1992. >>>>>> >>>>>> var. *simplex* >>>>>> >>>>>> Asm.: *Bon-babri*; Guj.: *Motibhonyaanmali*; Mar.: *Bhuiavali*; Sans.: >>>>>> *Tandameral*; Tel.: *Uchchiyusirika*. >>>>>> >>>>>> Herbs, annual or perennial, up to 20 cm high. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Fl. & Fr*. Jan. - Dec. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Distrib*. India: Common weed in waste places, cultivated fields, >>>>>> roadsides, riverbanks, grasslands, forest undergrowth, up to 1500 m >>>>>> altitude; almost throughout the country including Andaman & Nicobar >>>>>> Islands. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sri Lanka (and India) to SE. Asia, S. China, Indo-China and Malesia. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tapas Chakraborty" >>>>>> >>>>>> On 22 October 2012 15:02, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... species of *Phyllanthus*. >>>>>>> Some more information could be helpful; size of: flower OR fruit OR >>>>>>> leaf. >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dinesh, the size of the flower must be 3-4 mm and leave not above 2 >>>>>>> Cms., it was (the plant) was somehow around 1 foot in height. - from >>>>>>> Rajesh >>>>>>> ji. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It may be *Phyllanthus virgatus* (*= P. simplex*). >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vijayasankar ji, I think *P. virgatus* fruits hang by long slender >>>>>>> stalks ... please correct if wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Posted plant looks similar to what I have posted for ID at >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/kVPGdxvH7iA/F7x1oAgRqZIJ >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very good point Dinesh ji. Let's await for more responses. >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Rajesh Sachdev <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 11 October 2012 16:13 >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:134731] Herb for ID : Matheran RDS 111012 >>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clicked this erect herb at Matheran on last Sunday, requesting for >>>>>>> valid ID. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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