And yes the first photograph of Prashant ji shows these broader epicalyx of Abelmoschus manihot subsp. tetraphyllus, clearly.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > Strange but true perhaps > > Both above links of Hibiscus tetraphyllus which I doubted, to me actually > may be Thespesia lampas. Here are the links again. > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41867788@N07/3989376096/ > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41867788@N07/3933763097/sizes/z/in/photostream/ > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> To me there seems to lot of confusion on the net. Some prominent >> photographs of Abelmoschus manihot subsp. tetraphyllus on the net do not >> seem to be matching the description in books or efloras. >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41867788@N07/3989376096/ >> >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41867788@N07/3933763097/sizes/z/in/photostream/ >> >> To me these may not belong to Abelmoschus looking at the small calyx. >> >> >> Only authentic pectures which bring out the differences between A. >> esculentus and A. manihot subsp. tetraphyllus and match with the >> description of latter are on this page of Wikipedia and others >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abelmoschus >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanfari/5056366197/lightbox/ >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanfari/5088732732/ >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanfari/5056380833/ >> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> I would request Neil ji and Shrikant ji to upload pictures of flower bud >> and flower with calyx and epicalyx to clear the doubt. >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I would say second and third are A. esculentus only if this picture of >>> A. manihot subsp. tetraphyllus is correct >>> >>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41867788@N07/3933763097/sizes/z/in/photostream/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Samir Mehta <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> See if these images are what you are looking for Gurcharan, ignore the >>>> labels. >>>> The fruit image is wild for sure but the images -785 & -787 may be >>>> cultivated [I have to go back to my archived master images to be sure]. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Samir Mehta >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:49:57 PM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wish we had some photographs with calyx and epicalyx in focus, >>>>> because the plant is differentiated from cultivated lady's finger >>>>> (Abelmoschus esculentus in few (less than 6 as against more than 6) and >>>>> larger broadly ovate epicalyx (5-10 mm broad as against less than 4 mm) >>>>> and >>>>> shorter more strongly hispid fruits. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Neil Soares <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> My apologies. Here is the link : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/**forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!** >>>>>> search/Abelmoschus$20manihot$**20subsp.$20tetraphyllus$** >>>>>> 20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/**tAMLPLIfrcc/8udDTUz_X1MJ<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!search/Abelmoschus$20manihot$20subsp.$20tetraphyllus$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/tAMLPLIfrcc/8udDTUz_X1MJ> >>>>>> >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> ** Neil Soares. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- On *Sat, 10/27/12, Neil Soares <[email protected]>* wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Neil Soares <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:136391] Plz id this wild plant: pa9 - >>>>>> 26oct2012 >>>>>> To: "Prashant Ambedkar" <[email protected]>, "Gurcharan Singh" < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> Cc: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.**com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Date: Saturday, October 27, 2012, 1:07 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Prof. Singh, >>>>>> I also know it as Abelmoschus manihot subsp. tetraphyllus, but >>>>>> yesterday Mr. Ingalhalikar referred to it as Hibiscus tetraphylla, so I >>>>>> presumed that is the new name. My previous post and discussion on this >>>>>> are >>>>>> available at this link : >>>>>> >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/**forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!** >>>>>> search/Abelmoschus$20manihot$**20subsp.$20tetraphyllus$** >>>>>> 20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/**t<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!search/Abelmoschus$20manihot$20subsp.$20tetraphyllus$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/t> >>>>>> >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> Neil Soares. >>>>>> AMLPLIfrcc/8udDTUz_X1MJ >>>>>> --- On *Sat, 10/27/12, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>* wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:136346] Plz id this wild plant: pa9 - >>>>>> 26oct2012 >>>>>> To: "Prashant Ambedkar" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Cc: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "efloraofindia" < >>>>>> indian...@googlegroups.**com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Date: Saturday, October 27, 2012, 9:29 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> If this plant is Hibiscus tetraphyllus then the correct name should >>>>>> be Abelmoschus manihot subsp. tetraphyllus as indicated in another >>>>>> thread. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Prashant Ambedkar < >>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Neil ji for the confirmation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Neil Soares >>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> This plant has already featured today. It is the Wild Ladies' Finger >>>>>> [Hibiscus tetraphylla]. >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> Neil Soares. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- On *Fri, 10/26/12, Prashant Ambedkar >>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>> >* wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Prashant Ambedkar >>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:136338] Plz id this wild plant: pa9 - >>>>>> 26oct2012 >>>>>> To: "efloraofindia" >>>>>> <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Date: Friday, October 26, 2012, 11:28 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> This wild flower is clicked from Yeoor area ... the plant is around 7 >>>>>> foot height. I saw a similar looking flower identified as some Hibiscus >>>>>> species in a recent post. Plz id this plant if it is possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Prashant >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Prashant >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --
