I hope this is then of this discussion... it is becoming more to principal matters.
Salam, Eri On 3/6/07, Alidjaja Ivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > menilai = value, assess...dan lain sebagainya... > > sangat menarik..I would like to see the end of this discussion... > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] <indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:[email protected] <indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com>] > On Behalf Of masnunuk > Sent: 6. maaliskuuta 2007 13:39 > To: [email protected] <indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Indo-StarTrek] Re: Murahan?? --- katro nya tukul --- > > > > ---kutipan dari www.asalnimbrung.com---- > > karena ini dimilis dan bukan pm, boleh dong ikut nimbrung... ;) > > mestinya ada beda nya judging dengan menilai (bhs inggris nya > menilai > apa yaa.. ah dasar gw katro...wong ndeso... bhs inggris aja gak > bisa...dari generasi tua...dengan nilai2 yang juga tua... kalo' > menilai masih pake tradisi lama...ah dasar gw katro---jurus > laris > tukul #4: 'hina' diri sendiri) > > btw, ada berapa kotak yaa di semesta ini?? > ada kotak Gender... ujung2 nya jangan melecehkan > ada kotak Jadul dari generasi warkop... ujung2 nya... dasar > jadul!! > butuh berapa kotak?? kotak siapa yang lebih besar?? > > Saya yang katro menilai kelakuan Hoshi 'Murahan' Sato di ENT > :4x18-4x19: In a Mirror, Darkly part I & II > sebagai yang Murahan krn satu starship di-'embat' semua. > sampe T'Pol heran hoshi kok masih punya 'sisa tenaga' ;) > apa di semua seri hoshi seperti itu... kayak nya enggak ;) > apa semua wanita seperti itu....oh tentu tidak ;) > > di sisi lain, secara implisit di nilai(judge??) gen. warkop yang > sdh > gak lucu. > > setelah ini kalo' ada yang akan 'mengutuk' saya krn penilaian > saya, > gak papa krn penilaian saya memang seperti itu. > ---tafsiran bebas TNG:1x01-1x02: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > tapi saya gak akan mengutuk seseorang yang meng-kotak-i saya > dengan > label 'JADUL' > > nih gocap > MN > > --- In [email protected] <indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> , "warbird692001" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Sharif, judging ourselves is as easy as judging others. > Because being > > human is basically being selfish, everything is about > ourselves. Me, > > myself, my family, my house, my career, my etc, my etc. Unlike > other > > mammals, humans are individualists. > > > > So if you ask me if it's good to become the judge to > ourselves, my > > answer will be: we have been the judge to ourselves for > millenia. It's > > not good and it's not bad either. It's what we instinctively > do. > > Example: you judge yourself a sexyst, thus it gives you the > right to > > judge Hoshi and other women for their choices. > > > > I have a question: > > Can you be the jury and the executioner to yourself? > > > > Jury analyzes the case and decides if one's guilty or not. > > The executioner determines the penalty of your doings by > looking at > > the damages you have done whether intentionally or not. > > > > Humans made mistakes. That we all know. > > Accepting that fact is not important. > > The important thing is how to learn from those mistakes. > > > > Being a judge doesn't qualify us to learn from the mistakes we > made, > > but being a defendant is. It is not fair to pick out just one > thing > > and left out the others.. it will be too convenient. Truth is, > we've > > been conveniently living as judges. > > > > I'm not saying this is easy, but the best way to improve the > quality > > of humanity is not to be a judge, jury or executioner to > ourselves. > > Let others be the judge, jury and executioner, and let > ourselves be > > the defendants. > > > > My two cents. > > > > Salam, > > Indie > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> , Sharif Dayan <dayan@> wrote: > > > > > > Itulah karena saya seorang manusia, yang kodratnya tidak > sempurna. > > Saya mencoba > > > memperbaikinya dengan cara menyampaikan secara jujur. > Kejujuran > > berrisiko dianggap "two > > > cents", namun kejujuran itu saya sampaikan dengan -maunya- > rendah > hati. > > > > > > Cara saya berpikir dan bertindak seperti itu dipengaruhi > antara lain > > oleh ST. "Jangan > > > menjadi hakim bagi sesamamu", demikian yang pernah diajarkan > pada > > saya. Saya sudah > > > menghakimi dengan cara memberikan cap "murahan", namun pada > saat > > yang sama saya mencoba > > > menjadi hakim bagi diri saya sendiri dapat menjadi baik. > Baikkah itu > > ? Silakan > > > masing-masing kita bertanya pada diri sendiri. > > > > > > > > > Sharif Dayan > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- tix-oi sak-khet se-veh ("Live Long and Prosper") [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
