one is also a perception..hehehe if thesource is truly the ultimate source of everything, 'one' may not be the appropriate word to represent its nature (menurut gw sih..)
since you mention about 'belief' - do you think what we (in this case: you) believe is the reality? When Tom Paris believed that he could pass warp 10, was he in the 'reality' mode or the reality came after he passed the threshold? Thus, the question is: if a 'belief' is a reality, then a person does not need to prove whether his/her belief is reality or not, rite? - Note: T'Pol is a reality hehehehe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 1. huhtikuuta 2009 14:20 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Indo-StarTrek] About REALITY Hahaha... The ultimate question like this cannot be answered by merely my limited capability. I am still an entity, a very small being, not competent enough to answer your question about The Source. That's why from the beginning of this discussion, I say, don't debate about The Source. It's irrelevant. We are nothing, and we cannot, should not, must not, ask about the very existence of The Source. My second discussion was about perception. That's why you asked me whether what I "believe" is true right? I've said before: nothing is more complicated than perception. Finally, Eri said that when we are fully being one with The Source, that's when we will fully understand and aware of all this. So, the question is not about what I believe, but what you believe. Because I know deep down there, in every being's heart, all of us, will AGREE, that there is only ONE True Source. And all of our journey of life, all creatures and creations, the ultimate destiny is to go "home", back to The Source. Do you agree Eri? Sent from my BlackBerry(r) smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -----Original Message----- From: "Alidjaja Ivan" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:05:28 To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Indo-StarTrek] About REALITY and you just use your 'belief' to accept whatever 'this' Source said to you? :-) how do you know that theSource was the one who talked to you? .. sori nih, melenceng jauh dari Star trek, tapi gw jadi keingetan ketika Picard dibawa oleh Q ..hehehe.. gw rasa, gw udah dapet inti dari jawaban bung roy..:-), tapi kl pertanyaan di atas mau dijawab monggo... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 1. huhtikuuta 2009 13:37 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Indo-StarTrek] About REALITY How do I know? Hmmm... Why don't you ask The Source about this? Ask yourself, and beg for enlightenment. I did. So I know. Sent from my BlackBerry(r) smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -----Original Message----- From: "Alidjaja Ivan" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:14:37 To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Indo-StarTrek] About REALITY lebih tepatya: how do you know? :-) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 1. huhtikuuta 2009 13:10 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Indo-StarTrek] About REALITY What, you mean, you don't know? Sent from my BlackBerry(r) smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -----Original Message----- From: "Alidjaja Ivan" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:06:14 To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Indo-StarTrek] About REALITY how do you know kl the source itu sesuatu reality yg hakiki? :-) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 1. huhtikuuta 2009 13:05 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Indo-StarTrek] About REALITY Quote: "Hanya ada satu reality yang hakiki. That is when you are one with theSource." --- Setuju banget. Nothing's truly "real" in existence. 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