Just to clarify what I unfortunately may have said in a misleading way: i find Gallica wonderful for its provision of excellent photos of the Dunhuang manuscripts, for instance, as well as other things; i was speaking only of the scans of some old journals, which are of below par quality, not of Gallica overall.
Jonathan On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 1:21 PM Matthew Kapstein <[email protected]> wrote: > To clarify: > I have no association with the Journal Asiatique and am not therefore able > to assist as Jonathan requests. > > My own experience as a user of Gallica, from the Bibliothèque nationale de > France, has been entirely positive for the materials that have concerned me. > > Matthew T. Kapstein > Professor emeritus > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris > > Associate > The University of Chicago Divinity School > > https://ephe.academia.edu/MatthewKapstein > > Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/> secure email. > > ------- Original Message ------- > On Monday, July 31st, 2023 at 10:10 AM, Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > As a footnote, and perhaps a slim chance of creating a window (??), I > recall very clearly discussions I had quite some time ago with Prof Saito > Akira about the *Japanese Journal of Indian and Buddhist Studies* (IBK). > The reasoning in the beginning was that the copyright for all articles in > the journal rested with the authors, and therefore it would not be possible > to place on line those contributions for which permission could not be > obtained. This of course would be impossible, all the more so as > contributors to the earlier volumes were in many cases no longer among us. > > I do not know how they resolved the question, but not so many years after > our conversation (I don't recall how long it took) everything appeared > online, and in a wonderful fashion, quite unlike --still a scandal I > think-- what one sees from France with the *Journal Asiatique*, for > instance, which is often virtually illegible. > > Also by the way, the IBK scans are linked to the inbuds.net database, > which while not perfect is searchable in many ways, and is a genuinely > great beginning to not only making bibliography available but linking it to > scans, in some cases-- along with the CiNii database ( > https://cir.nii.ac.jp/), this is a more than good model for making such > material accessible, since unlike jstor etc the inbuds database also has > keywords and the like. > > Anyway, with regard to the French situation, perhaps Matthew could > motivate some of his contacts in Paris to bring to bear modern technology > on that currently difficult matter. Reading scans from Gallica sometimes > evokes nightmares of trying to read the old b/w microfilms of the Narthang > Kanjur... > > best, > Jonathan > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 12:08 AM Karin.Preisendanz via INDOLOGY < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> Thank you for your interest. >> >> I had responded to Matthew immediately after he had sent his inquiry. >> >> Here is a slightly abbreviated version of my reply to him back then. >> >> *** >> >> The pre-1991 volumes are not available in scanned form. Even though in >> 2013 I spent a lot of (eventually wasted) time on this matter, together >> with the legal department of the Austrian Academy of Sciences (inasmuch >> as its publishing house is functioning as publisher since 1991), the >> Academy finally withdrew from the project of making the earlier volumes >> available on JSTOR because of 1) the demand of an inordinate amount of >> money by the still-extant successor of the Vienna publishing house >> Hollinek that had published the earliest volumes (and, of course, long >> forgotten about this until the inquiry came), and 2) their reluctance to >> get into complicated negotations with Brill which was subsequently >> acting as international "publisher on commission" until the Academy >> publishing house took over in 1991, together with Vienna-based Gerold, >> the second "publisher on commission", which is, however, definitely >> defunct. >> >> To my knowledge, Brill never responded to the inquiry by the Academy. >> The former Department of Indology (succeeded by the Department of South >> Asian, Tibetan and Buddhist Studies) of the University of Vienna was the >> main copyrighted publisher back then, but my (or the University's) >> consent would not have been sufficient from the legal point of view to >> provided scanned versions of the volumes before 1991. Even though no >> online publications existed at the time the contracts were drawn up with >> Hollinek and Brill, the agreed-upon rights for analogue publication (in >> the latter case: the international dissemination of printed copies on >> commission) would automatically apply to any future, different types of >> publication. >> >> In the end, the Academy decided that they would not pursue the matter >> further as the volumes were not published by them in the first place and >> because it did not see much of a benefit for itself if these volumes >> were available on JSTOR at their cost. The task of negotiating with >> Hollinek and Brill would be up to JSTOR whose request had actually >> started our deliberations. This was communicated to JSTOR, but I have >> not heard from them again. >> >> However, almost all back-issues of the Journal are still available in >> perfect condition for sale by the Department; please refer to >> >> https://stb.univie.ac.at/publikationsreihen/wiener-zeitschrift-fuer-die-kunde-suedasiens-wzks/bestellung/ >> or >> >> https://stb.univie.ac.at/en/publication-series/vienna-journal-of-south-asian-studies-wzks/order/ >> . >> >> I would be delighted to arrange for these volumes to be sent to you or >> your library. >> >> *** >> >> With best regards, >> >> Karin Preisendanz >> >> >> Am 29.07.2023 22:27, schrieb Oliver Fallon via INDOLOGY: >> > Matthew Kapstein sent this enquiry about the WZKS almost two years >> > ago, but it does not seem to have had a reply. >> > I'm sure many of us would like to access early numbers of this >> > journal. Does anyone know if there has been any progress in making >> > them available? >> > With thanks, >> > Oliver >> > >> > On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 20:35, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Dear friends, >> >> >> >> From 1991 on the WZKS is available on JSTOR. >> >> Is there a accessible source for scanned copies of the pre-1991 >> >> issues? >> >> >> >> with thanks in advance, >> >> Matthew >> >> >> >> Matthew Kapstein >> >> Directeur d'études, émérite >> >> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris >> >> >> >> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >> >> The University of Chicago >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > INDOLOGY mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > Prof. dr. 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