On 31 May 2013, at 13:52, Dan Berindei <[email protected]> wrote:

> If we only want to deal with full cluster shutdown, then I think stopping all 
> application requests, calling Cache.clear() on one node, and then shutting 
> down all the nodes should be simpler. On start, assuming no cache store, the 
> caches will start empty, so starting all the nodes at once and only allowing 
> application requests when they've all joined should also work without extra 
> work.
> 
> If we only want to stop a part of the cluster, suppressing rebalancing would 
> be better, because we wouldn't lose all the data. But we'd still lose the 
> keys whose owners are all among the nodes we want to stop. I've discussed 
> this with Adrian, and we think if we want to stop a part of the cluster 
> without losing data we need a JMX operation on the coordinator that will 
> "atomically" remove a set of nodes from the CH. After the operation 
> completes, the user will know it's safe to stop those nodes without losing 
> data.

I think the no-data-loss option is bigger scope, perhaps part of ISPN-1394.  
And that's not what I am asking about.

> When it comes to starting a part of the cluster, a "pause rebalancing" option 
> would probably be better - but again, on the coordinator, not on each joining 
> node. And clearly, if more than numOwner nodes leave while rebalancing is 
> suspended, data will be lost.

Yup.  This sort of option would only be used where data loss isn't an issue 
(such as a distributed cache).  Where data loss is an issue, we'd need more 
control - ISPN-1394.

> 
> Cheers
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Manik Surtani <[email protected]> wrote:
> Guys
> 
> We've discussed ISPN-3140 elsewhere before, I'm brining it to this forum now.
> 
> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-3140
> 
> Any thoughts/concerns?  Particularly looking to hear from Dan or Adrian about 
> viability, complexity, ease of implementation.
> 
> Thanks
> Manik
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