Hi Ryan,

no problem at all. I can see how it's confusing, and open to
suggestions to make this clearer. Also I don't blame who's working to
make progress but I'll blame the reviewers, they should know by know
about these modules :P

Regarding the Search upgrade, that's up to Adrian, Gustavo and
Tristan, but as I mentioned the version upgrade was classified as a
minor mostly because of the ORM integration changes, which won't
affect Infinispan so not very disruptive at all - except in how those
modules have to be built of course.


On 19 February 2018 at 10:29, Ryan Emerson <remer...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi Sanne,
> Thanks for the input and the proposed solution. I am not familiar
> with Hibernate search and our integrations, so I will leave others to
> comment on the version upgrade. I just wanted to let you know that the
> transition to feature-packs is on the roadmap for 9.3 as part of our
> ongoing server refactoring efforts. Furthermore, I believe the breaking
> of the wildfly-modules was caused by my work on the bom and parent pom
> refactoring, so apologies for the inconvenience, I owe you a beer!
> Cheers
> Ryan
> ----- Original Message -----
>> Hi all,
>> spent friday and a good deal of the weekend exploring some options;
>> finally I have a proposal.
>>  - https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/pull/5766
>> But let me give some background:
>> I was originally planning to upgrade Infinispan to Hibernate Search
>> 5.9.0.Final only in Infinispan 9.3, as while the code itself didn't
>> change much, I was expecting quite some work in the area of the build
>> of WildFly modules.
>> However since the module structure in the current master is lacking
>> [ISPN-8780] I'm proposing now to do this upgrade already, so to not
>> have to refactor the build of modules now and then again shortly.
>> As a reminder, we want Infinispan to be able to provide a "Lucene
>> Directory Provider" for 3 versions of Hibernate Search:
>>  A) the version which is included in latest WildFly stable release
>>  B) the version which Infinispan Query is using
>>  C) the latest stable version
>> It is of course possible - even likely - that some of these versions
>> happen to be the same for a particular release train; that's nice
>> however please remember that while they might be *coincidentally* the
>> same, that's no good reason to remove the capability of the build
>> system to support these different versions when they happen to
>> diverge. That's why the properties which mark each of these versions
>> was strictly separate - and more crucially was not "redundant".
>> In the specific case, I was looking for the properties I needed to
>> change to make sure we could support latest Hibernate Search release
>> but they were gone, my guess is this was caused by the fact that
>> recently version[B] and version[C] happened to match so this confused.
>> At this stage I don't think it's worth it to try find and identify all
>> changes which should be reverted, as with the upcoming upgrade to
>> Hibernate Search 5.9.0.Final several changes in how we build modules
>> would be needed, so I'll send a PR to upgrade to HS 5.9.0.Final
>> already.
>> Risks and implications?
>> HS 5.9 is mostly the same as 5.8, the main difference for end users is
>> the integration with a different version of Hibernate ORM now
>> supporting JPA 2.2 - but this isn't relevant for Infinispan so I
>> consider the upgrade overall a low risk.
>> The other relevant difference is that we no longer publish a zip of
>> the modules for WildFly - we publish instead a set of rather fine
>> grained feature packs. This is good news for Infinispan as we can
>> better cherry pick which components you actually want, but it means
>> the build needs to be adapted now to deal with these feature packs.
>> In my PR for ISPN-8779 I'll use the Provisioning plugin for Maven to
>> materialize the modules that Infinispan needs, so that for now they
>> can be re-packaged into the zip files - so to not have any impact on
>> Infinispan users. I hope in a second stage you'll all see the benefits
>> of distributing feature packs so we'll be able to simplify some
>> things.
>> Feature packs normally have a notion of dependency to other feature
>> packs, but to keep the adaptation into "old style fat zip" I'll
>> reconfigure the provisioning task to disable transitive dependencies;
>> the drawback is that I'll have to declare the version of each feature
>> pack we need explicitly in the parent pom: we'll be able to avoid the
>> need to match the dependant versions when Infinispan also will produce
>> feature packs rather than the fat zip.
>> N.B. this PR #5766 doesn't address the fact that the build doesn't
>> differentiate between the above cases B and C, but since B and C would
>> just happen to be the same version again in Infinispan 9.2 the issue
>> is no longer urgent, so ISPN-8780 could be postponed to 9.3+ and it
>> might be much easier after migrating some Infinispan modules to
>> feature packs as well.
>> Thanks,
>> Sanne
>> On 7 February 2018 at 16:59, Sanne Grinovero <sa...@infinispan.org> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I was going to give ISPN-8779 a shot but I'm finding a mess.
>> >
>> > the root pom contains these twice (and inconsistent!):
>> >
>> > <version.hibernate.search>5.8.1.Final</version.hibernate.search>
>> > [...]
>> > <version.hibernate.search>5.8.0.Final</version.hibernate.search>
>> >
>> > the BOM cointains a copy of `version.hibernate.search` as well.
>> >
>> > I don't mind deleting duplicate properties, but we used to have
>> > clearly separate properties for different purposes, and this
>> > separation is essential.
>> >
>> > I've mentioned this multiple times when reviewing PRs which would get
>> > my attention, but I didn't see these changes - certainly didn't expect
>> > you all to forget the special purpose of these modules.
>> > It's quite messy now and I'm honestly lost myself at how I could revert it.
>> >
>> > In particular this module is broken now as it's targeting the wrong slot:
>> >  -
>> >  
>> > https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/blob/master/wildfly-modules/src/main/resources/org/infinispan/for-hibernatesearch-wildfly/main/module.xml#L27
>> >
>> > Clearly it's not consistent with the comment I've put on the module
>> > descriptor.
>> > I don't see that module being included in the released modules either,
>> > and clearly the integration tests didn't catch it because they have
>> > been patched to use the wrong modules too :(
>> >
>> > Other essential integration tests which I had put in place to make
>> > sure they'd get your attention in case someone had such an idea.. have
>> > been deleted.
>> >
>> > Opening ISPN-8780, I would consider this a release blocker.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Sanne
>> >
>> > See also:
>> >  -
>> >  
>> > https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/blob/master/integrationtests/as-lucene-directory/READ.ME
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