First question, is WHERE IS TRANSARC/IBM!! At Decorum 99, Ben Cox gave a great 
presentation
on converting AFS to use Kerberos 5. This sounded like a great marketing strategy,
in that it could allow AFS to eventually be the Distributed File System for 
Win2000, and could use the Win2000 KDC, or some other K5 KDC. 

I would be interested in where Transarc/IBM stood on this promised project.   

Neulinger, Nathan R." wrote:
> 
> I was thinking that using gssapi could be leveraged. At one point, I seem to
> recall reading/hearing/being told that with the win2k kerberos support,
> client code had ZERO access to the tickets themselves and that the only
> exported interface was SSPI.
> 

An interesting item in this area, Martin Rex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is working
on a GSSAPI to run over SSPI. He has been promising to release it any day,
and has been talking to Microsoft who might add it as a sample program.
This could greatly simplify any program, especially if you understand GSSAPI already. 

> What I was thinking is that you could create a pseudo-krb524d that was a
> gssapi service on the server, and have aklog authenticate to it including
> forwarded tickets, and then have it use the forwarded tickets somehow and
> convert them - i.e. the same way that gssapi ftpd works with aklog now. i.e.
> if windows won't let you get at the tickets, forward em somewhere else and
> let that service do the work.
> 

That would be a rather simple program to write, and you don't need to 
forward any ticket. The function of krb524d is to convert the K5 service ticket
to a k4 ticket. A GSSAPI interface would be rather easy to add. 

> I don't know if this makes any sense, as my low-level knowledge of aklog is
> limited. If the 'SSPI only' bit is no longer the case, it won't be an issue.
> 

> -- Nathan
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Nathan Neulinger                       EMail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Hornstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 9:14 AM
> > To: Nathan Neulinger
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Anyone working on a Win2k/GSSAPI/SSPI version of aklog?
> >
> >
> > >Obviously, isn't really needed just yet, as the client won't be
> > >available for a while, but would be nice to know if it's being
> > >considered. (That is, unless you happen to have inside information
> > >intimating that transarc is finally going to start supporting krb5
> > >directly. *crossing fingers*)
> >
> > I'm not sure how a GSS-API aklog would _work_.  You're not
> > authenticating
> > _to_ anything ... you're getting a service ticket that you're cramming
> > into the kernel (after converting it to V4).  How would you
> > use GSS-API
> > in that case?
> >
> > --Ken
> >

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