+Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 10:47:25 PDT
+To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Doering)
+Subject: PAG Instructions, Please

+And finally, in the AFS User's Guide on page A-48, the pagsh "man" page
+finally states that pagsh creates a new command shell.  It doesn't state
+that it creates a Bourne shell, whether you like it or not.  To get to a C
+shell, you have to run csh after the pagsh.  

        Do `exec csh' instead of simply doing `csh'.

+All this leaves you with a C shell, child of a Bourne shell (pagsh), child
+of your .login.  

+        ----------    
+        | .login |  
+        |--------|    ----------
+        | pagsh  |--->|   sh   |
+        | echo ..|<-+ |--------|    ---------
+        | klog   |  | |   csh  |--->|  csh  |
+        | cmds ..|  +-|  exit  |<-+ |-------|
+        |   .    |    ----------  | |  cmds |
+        |   .    |                | |    .  |
+        |   .    |                | |    .  |
+        ----------                | |    .  |
+                                  +-|  exit |
+                                    ---------

+Don Doering

Doing `exec csh' should result in this relationship.

        ----------    
        | .login |  
        |--------|    ----------
        | pagsh  |--->|  csh   |
        | echo ..|<-+ |--------|
        | klog   |  | |  cmds  |
        | cmds ..|  +-|  exit  |
        |   .    |    ----------
        |   .    |
        |   .    |
        ----------

1/2 :-) I do not understand why one would want to replace a fairly good
        (sh) with a poor shell (csh).  But, there is no disputing tastes.
        Now I do understand replacing sh with ksh.

Another thing I do not understand is why AFS did not implement full Unix file
semantics and instead implemented ``ACL''s.  This makes AFS very unusable in
an UNIX environment.

Randolph J. Herber, [EMAIL PROTECTED], +1 708 840 2966, CD/DCD/SPG
(Speaking for myself and not for US, US DOE, FNAL nor URA.)
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