On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Earl R Shannon wrote:

> We are wanting to improve our backups here at NCSU and are looking
> at various ways to do it, including commercial products. 
> Are any of you using products such as Budtool or ADSM/Tivoli, etc.?
 
>From what I've been able to learn, there are people using both of
the above, as well as a new-ish product called TiBS from Teradactyl
(www.teradactyl.com).  Incidentally, if it's actually possible to
acquire Budtool at this point I'd like to know how.  It _seems_ to be
one of those things you can use if you got it when it was available,
but you can't get it anywhere today.


> Something that might can happen now that AFS has been opened sourced
> is an AFS aware tar and or dump command, ie, one that keeps track of
> acl's on a directory. I really think things  would improve for us if
> we could stream data to tape without having to access the database
> servers. Yes, other means of maintaining some form of a backup database
> would be needed, but Arla combined with an AFS tar or afsdump
> ( to coin a word ) would probably do the trick nicely. 

What I'm interested in doing is adding an AFS backup mechanism to
Amanda (www.amanda.org).  I've been thinking along the lines of using
'vos dump' to actually get the data out of the fileservers, but I'm
certainly open to other possible solutions such an afsdump if that's
something that's doable and especially if it's faster.  Would you be
interested in collaborating with us on this project?

-Mitch

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