"Greg A. Woods" wrote:
> 
> 
> > I ran [SSH] for six months and none or few of my WinCVS clients got it working.
> > Now some documentation has been posted explaining how to do it, but I can
> > see that it's a fairly painful installation. Hopefully that will change soon
> > and I can really use the ssh solution.
> 
> *YOU* should have been capable of writing that documentation in the
> first place and ensuring that your users understood it sufficiently.

Very likely capable.  Does this mean it's a good idea?

You can spend arbitrarily large amounts of time and effort and
inconvenience on security, but eventually you have to get some work done
or you've got
nothing to be secure about.  It would be beneficial if Justin were to
make it easy to use SSH for Wintel boxes and Macs, but it's additional
work that is not necessarily a good idea for his application, given his
risk assessment.

(BTW, I've only been able to find two SSH implementations for the
Mac.  One is commercial, costing a few hundred dollars, and one is
not legal for use in the US until September 21, due to US Patent
Office cluelessness.  Fortunately for me, I've just installed a
Linux box at home.)

> You can use that documentation *NOW*.  You should be capable of using
> that documentation to build, or solicit the building of, a well tested
> canned configuration for the necessary tools (eg. a self-installing
> package) such that you don't even have to educate your users in mundane
> issues that you don't think they should have to deal with.
> 
That would be a useful project, and it would be nice if somebody would
undertake it.

And, yes, it's about personal computing, and, yes, personal computing
can be a nightmare to professionals.  On the other hand, it's useful,
prevalent, and fun, and it's not going away.  Professionals have to
deal with personal computing in some way or another, and I don't think
that trying to ban it from serious work is the best way to go.  It's
like the management structure set up around the CVS repository here:
it isn't ideal from the CVS point of view, but it serves the needs
of the company very well, and CVS can be set up to handle it.

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