[ On , March 19, 2002 at 14:20:19 (-0600), Mark A. Flacy wrote: ] > Subject: Re: english text only? > > List? What list? I'm reading this in the newsgroup gnu.cvs.help.
"info-cvs" is primarily, and was originally, a mailing list, hosted at gnu.org. It is also gatewayed to the GNUsenet system for those who prefer to use a news reader to follow forums like this (esp. in context with the other gnu.* groups). If I'm not mistaken all the GNUsenet groups are available as mailing lists, and most started as mailing lists too, only becoming GNUsenet groups when the volume of postings warranted. Once upon a time many people received their e-mail and *Usenet feeds over very slow and/or very expensive long-distance links. Having multiple people at a given site subscribe to multiple gnu.org mailing lists made it cheaper and more effective to use news instead of e-mail. Once upon a time GNUsenet did not enjoy as wide a distribution as the rest of Usenet (partly because many sites received their news feeds over very slow and/or very expensive long-distance links). These days almost everyone gets their e-mail and news feeds over Internet links. People who read news often read it from a VERY large shared system at their ISP's location, and most large ISPs still running their own news servers get a full news feed and GNUsenet is only a very very tiny fraction of the entire feed. However even without the alt hierarchy and binary groups a newsfeed is still very large and sometimes beyond the abilities of the average smaller ISP. So while GNUsenet now enjoys nearly 100% equivalent distribution to the non-binary parts of Usenet, not nearly so many people have truly free or inclusive-priced news reading and posting service. Also, the average ISP no longer cares about the waste of a few duplicate mailing list subscriptions, what with the vast wastage their upstream connections suffer from HTTP et al (even with transparent caching servers in place). Finally for many of us news is still too littered with bad behaviour and spam (many many orders of magnitude worse now all year 'round than it ever was at the beginning of the school year in days gone by). So, I suspect the majority of readers of and posters to this forum now access it as a mailing list. Even though I have effectively free high-speed access to a news server that keeps all non-binary groups for 30 days, I can't be bothered to look at it. (and once upon a time I ran a rather busy full-feed news server myself, back in the days when I could receive a feed and push more than two more copies back out on the same Telebit modem, along with all my e-mail! :-) W.R.T. spam, once upon a time the majority of the spam in this forum came from cross- and direct-posted Gnusenet spam. That situation seems to have either improved, or been drastically overshadowed by the enormous amount of spam now arriving directly to the mailing list re-distribution address. Interestingly not all gnu.org mailing lists suffer so badly as this one. I was reminded by the end-of-month notice that I still stubscribe to one other gnu.org list, and I don't remember ever getting any spam on it. I do not know why it is spam free while info-cvs is not. -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Planix, Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; VE3TCP; Secrets of the Weird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs