-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bryce Nesbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Mark D. Baushke wrote: > > I do not know who these people are. It sounds > > like they are mostly ignorant of what CVS does > > these days. > > > > They should consider opening dialogue with the > > CVS maintainers if they think they are trying > > to support CVS as a source control mechanism > > and do not like how the client server stuff is > > defined or are actively refusing to actually > > use options that are used by a large number of > > the opensource projects on the planet. > I agree. They're in their own little world. They > seem to have their own internal CVS & SSH > implementation (they also support several > perforce, subversion, sourcesafe & starteam). Hmmm... Is this is the IntelliJ IDEA product from www.jetbrains.com? If so, I believe you can specify :ext: and name an external 'rsh' program where you could provide a path to an ssh executable and then you would not have a problem. > However: except for the ":ssh" access method, > it's all compatible! This is probably in spite of them rather than because of them. > My guess is most of their customers are > fully-IDE people, who never want the option of > looking at things from the command line. Too > bad. As you have neglected to name the company, you do not provide anyone enough information to support or reject your opinion. > > >> NB: IDEA is not open source. > > Then you should probably reject it and support > > an open source project tool. > I'm very happy with IDEA, and unlikely to > change. Sorry. That is your own choice with your own consequences. For myself, what little Java I might hack these days is done using GNU Emacs. I would be more likely to use an open source IDE that runs on an open source operating system in any case. > Unfortunately this means I'll have to run a > patched (hacked) version of cvs. I don't like > doing that, but it seems necessary if I can't > convince the developers of IDEA/CVSNT and CVS to > settle on a common construction for the CVS/Root > file. As I said, CVSNT already supports the ill-chosen name :ssh: as a method. While I believe this was a mistake, it is their right to do so if they wish. I also believe that the :extssh: name first in CVSNT and then in CVS was probably a mistake, but it was in aid of supporting an Open Source IDE (eclipse.org), so I did not object. > Any suggestions where to go next? If Larry and Derek are interested in adding the :ssh: method to CVS, I will not stand in the way. However, I suggest that you name the company in public so that other customers can find out they do not play well with the open source community and/or point them at this current discussion thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-cvs/2006-03/msg00269.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-cvs/2006-04/msg00000.html You are presumably paying them for support, so try to get them to support :extssh: like Eclipse if that is the only way to get them to do something reasonable. > Any suggestions on a workaround? You could explicitly specify the CVSROOT on the command line: cvs -d ':ext;CVS_RSH=ssh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/Users/xxxxxxxxx/ccs_cvshome/xxxxxxxxxxxx' cvs-command cvs-arguments > > -Bryce > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/cvs/ccs/denali> cat CVS/Root CVS/Repository > :ssh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/Users/xxxxxxxxx/ccs_cvshome/ > xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Note: I've helped perhaps a dozen other > developers set up cvs repositories. The "ssh" > thing is always a point of confusion. The > conceptual leaps and syntax are not so clear for > a first time setup, for a person who does not > know the layers of history regarding rsh/ssh and > other ext access methods. Feel free to suggest changes to cvs documentation if you have any suggestions to make life easier for users. Good luck, -- Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFELtA8Cg7APGsDnFERAmTxAKDrqSyFFLL7sY5o4Znz2J0ve2aKngCeL9me Ccr/e4O/PH4Cp6JMbZ7fs1A= =5eyy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ info-cvs mailing list info-cvs@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
